Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 13:41:21 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= <fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com> To: Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com> Cc: Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2@yahoo.com>, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Docker Message-ID: <CAGwOe2ak6=QErKmrYDZOHEAKw5Vnvad-Zv4QGc-z_pWRfREtMw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CA%2B1FSigDXR__RGsFnFk_b46DA1Xyie4dTNKkMQ1=uC5D4WyHTg@mail.gmail.com> References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <34b4b76e-1c41-4cfb-9e86-856f01e8abc9@app.fastmail.com> <CA%2B1FSihVrJ8cZ4ZU6mMr0sKJsZ98V4fh2vpDLugw7MGj-%2BEBPg@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B1FSijL50mQ-HveBA4HZeNkSoaORv=aty-15nNLzn9amzY_nw@mail.gmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <CA%2B1FSigV_pPwVW%2BDd8WZYGcNQVt7%2BYOcsnJFoRhS6jL5A636pg@mail.gmail.com> <20230412150350.12f97eb2c9dd566b8c8702d2@sohara.org> <CA%2B1FSihVPCQ6tp8u=aqnLyyOPpCMrnhYGcC8bCUgRbFHTdY5sA@mail.gmail.com> <1535315680.2770963.1681309684072@mail.yahoo.com> <20230412155252.5e38ea4728bd52dc798852fc@sohara.org> <1d0a7ed1-9330-49df-9b66-9ee4387de511@app.fastmail.com> <78F4160A-2D26-4A22-9139-A9132FC42688@ellael.org> <20230417133223.3ef5e26c.freebsd@edvax.de> <CA%2B1FSihn%2BB6LTUm7gof6Nd=niL5=dMvQ46HUv=NJ2%2BNhcLS7RQ@mail.gmail.com> <989A99FE-5DA3-4346-B886-32F8E64BA6F0@nimnet.asn.au> <8714f66b-cd2a-2dd3-67ba-9313522ee1b6@tundraware.com> <FD04D764-CF93-421D-9A96-C1BB1A414F80@nimnet.asn.au> <508110719.5095520.1681763487266@mail.yahoo.com> <CA%2B1FSigDXR__RGsFnFk_b46DA1Xyie4dTNKkMQ1=uC5D4WyHTg@mail.gmail.com>
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--0000000000003ded2505f99ada6e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 12:28=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail= .com> wrote: > I don't want it to die. I like freebsd more than linux. But I would also > like that more developers want to work on it to improve it and that some > areas were filled by more innovation. > FreeBSD is a volunteer project. That means developers work on what they find interesting. That might align with your view or it might not. At some point some people are paid to work on something even if it is not the most fun thing for them. But they have a contract so they have to honor it. The FreeBSD Foundation contracts people to work on certain areas they see the Project needs to improve at ( https://freebsdfoundation.org/open-positions/). For the rest, I'm afraid you would need to join the efforts of some projects that share your interests. I know some people would love to have docker on FreeBSD and maybe a group can be formed to work on that but as other people said, it is not easy to do so. Don't get me wrong, I think FreeBSD has some things to learn from Linux, though some others I hope we never adopt. > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:31=E2=80=AFPM Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2@yahoo.= com> > wrote: > >> Just remember.... "BSD is going to die" How many times has that been >> said to people in the BSD communities? >> >> Still going strong since 1974... :D >> >> Paul >> >> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 12:05:32 PM PDT, Ian Smith < >> smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote: >> >> >> On 18 April 2023 3:01:55 am AEST, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> >> wrote: >> >> > On 4/17/23 11:35, Ian Smith wrote: >> > > most would prefer to raise the average IQ >> >> > As an old, grumpy Boomer, I declare this to be so unlikely as to have >> > 0% probability of happening ;) >> >> >> As a possibly older and likely grumpier Boomer: Q.E.D <&^}=3D >> >> I could have tried the inverse: 'most would prefer not to lower the >> average IQ' but this topic demonstrates, if nothing else, the fruitlessn= ess >> of magical thinking. >> >> On the subject of FreeBSD's immanent demise, a little Australiana: >> >> "We'll all be rooned, said Hanrahan ..." >> >> http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/authors/obrienj/poetry/hanrahan.html >> >> >> > > -- > Mario. > --0000000000003ded2505f99ada6e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 12:28=E2=80= =AFPM Mario Marietto <<a href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com">marietto= 2008@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st= yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd= ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I don't want it to die. I like freebsd m= ore than linux. But I would also like that more developers want to work on = it to improve it and that some areas were filled by more innovation.<br></d= iv></blockquote><div><br></div><div>FreeBSD is a volunteer project. That me= ans developers work on what they find interesting.</div><div>That might ali= gn with your view or it might not.</div><div><br></div><div>At some point s= ome people are paid to work on something even if it is not the most fun thi= ng for them. But they have a contract so they have to honor it.</div><div>T= he FreeBSD Foundation contracts people to work on certain areas they see th= e Project needs to improve at (<a href=3D"https://freebsdfoundation.org/ope= n-positions/">https://freebsdfoundation.org/open-positions/</a>).</div><div= ><br></div><div>For the rest, I'm afraid you would need to join the eff= orts of some projects that share your interests.</div><div>I know some peop= le would love to have docker on FreeBSD and maybe a group can be formed to = work on that but as other people said, it is not easy to do so.</div><div><= br></div><div>Don't get me wrong, I think FreeBSD has some things to le= arn from Linux, though some others I hope we never adopt. <br></div><div>= =C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0= .8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"l= tr"></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at= tr">On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:31=E2=80=AFPM Paul Pathiakis <<a href=3D"= mailto:pathiaki2@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">pathiaki2@yahoo.com</a>> w= rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p= x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div = style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13= px"><div></div> <div dir=3D"ltr">Just remember.... "BSD is going to die"= =C2=A0 How many times has that been said to people in the BSD communities?<= /div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Still going strong since 1= 974... :D=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Paul= </div><div><br></div> =20 </div><div id=3D"m_2651284289629998825m_-7714268352095446420ydpd2f2= 07d9yahoo_quoted_2376191927"> <div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,= Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> =20 <div> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 12:05:32 PM PDT, Ian Smith= <<a href=3D"mailto:smithi@nimnet.asn.au" target=3D"_blank">smithi@nimne= t.asn.au</a>> wrote: </div> <div><br></div> <div><br></div> <div><div dir=3D"ltr">On 18 April 2023 3:01:55 am AEST, Tim= Daneliuk <<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tundra@tundraware.com" rel= =3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tundra@tundraware.com</a>> wrote:<div id= =3D"m_2651284289629998825m_-7714268352095446420ydpd2f207d9yqtfd32360"><br c= lear=3D"none"> > On 4/17/23 11:35, Ian Smith wrote:<br clear=3D"none"> &= gt; > most would prefer to raise the average IQ<br clear=3D"none"><br cl= ear=3D"none"> > As an old, grumpy Boomer, I declare this to be so unlike= ly as to have<br clear=3D"none"> > 0% probability of happening ;)</div><= br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">As a possibly older and likely grumpie= r Boomer: Q.E.D=C2=A0 <&^}=3D<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I= could have tried the inverse: 'most would prefer not to lower the aver= age IQ' but this topic demonstrates, if nothing else, the fruitlessness= of magical thinking.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">On the subject o= f FreeBSD's immanent demise, a little Australiana:<br clear=3D"none"><b= r clear=3D"none">"We'll all be rooned, said Hanrahan ..."<br = clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.midd= lemiss.org/lit/authors/obrienj/poetry/hanrahan.html" rel=3D"nofollow" targe= t=3D"_blank">http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/authors/obrienj/poetry/hanrahan.= html</a><div id=3D"m_2651284289629998825m_-7714268352095446420ydpd2f207d9yq= tfd90802"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div> </div> </div></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br><span>-- </spa= n><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Mario.<br></div> </blockquote></div></div> --0000000000003ded2505f99ada6e--
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