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Date:      Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:34:13 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chris Lynch <lynch@cityisp.net>
To:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: window
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10006081239180.17688-100000@thebomb.city-guide.com>
In-Reply-To: <001301bfd14c$3d96b5b0$e2e07ad1@beefstew>

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On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, leegold wrote:

> find a STEP BY STEP explaination on how to configure it - do i ahve to read
> another orielly book to get anything going?. it seems like i am just
> continually scoping books, searching Linux sites/howtos,  groping for
> questions on the web, and i'm not getting anywhere. all my windowsmaker
> questions where deflected at their mail list - saying they were all xfree86
> issues not windowmaker questions.
> 
> 1st thing is i can not adjust my monitor anymore w/the hardware adjustments
> on the front panel of the monitor - i get an  err mess saying i can not
> adjust the timing. this never happened w/nt. why would i be locked out from
> my own monitors adjustments?

 You must find out your monitor hsync and vsync freq. You select them
during the xf86config program. Also, choose the correct res.

You already typed wmaker.inst to setup windowmaker. If you want a generic
window manager do this: 

# cp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~yourloginname/.xinitrc
you could also type:
# cp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc $HOME/.xinitrc


open .xinitrc with your favorite editor. You'll probably want to use ee,
because vi will probably make you pull more hair out, although it is far
superior to most editors...


At the bottom you will see something along the lines of "put some nice
programs here" 
If you leave that file as is (you can change the ownership to yourself,
also) you'll get good ol X . I comment out the lines and type
startkde    
on a line by itself, because that's my window manager of choice.
Oh yeah, a good idea is to type
# man xinit
it'll give you some insight.





> 
> xvidtune is not doing squat to help me configure the dimentions - there is a
> problem w/my desktop scrolling off the screen completely when i drag windows
> to the screen edge. xvidtune has no effect on this.
>

You have to run xf86config. You really need to also read the screen when
you run it. I've never used xvidtune, since xf86config works well enough
for me( I like it's straight forward style).

 
> w/windowsmaker there is a strange opague border around the steelblue WM
> desktop. what the heck is it? it's only visible when using WM - but they say
> it's an x86 issue.
> 


it could be something with using the wrong resolution.


> so i think i'm going to uninstall the whole bag and rethink this - i have a
> powerful OS in my box and i'm am getting sidetracked w/less important stuff.
> i wouldn't mind a stable console window,,,,

suit yourself, although, I would just rethink what steps you've taken
during this whole process that could have caused it NOT to work. It's
pretty lame, and somewhat cold to say , but, if your hardware is supported
and it's not working , then you are doing something wrong. it's probably
do to something you've overlooked. 
 
Getting X to run is the first thing alot of Unix home users struggle
with, including myself.My problems where due to not using the correct
hardware settings.After the initial problems, I've had different versions
of various Window Managers up and running fo a while now. Unix seems
excessively complex , at first. It gets easier. 
 And , then there is the constant learning that happens.


later 
Chris Lynch



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