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Date:      Sat, 14 Sep 2013 11:55:41 -0600
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com>
Cc:        freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-sparc64 <freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Patch for Cross-Reference Phandles
Message-ID:  <1379181341.1197.26.camel@revolution.hippie.lan>
In-Reply-To: <20130914172735.GX68682@funkthat.com>
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On Sat, 2013-09-14 at 10:27 -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> Ian Lepore wrote this message on Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 09:43 -0600:
> > On Sat, 2013-09-14 at 09:06 -0500, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> > > On 09/14/13 08:31, Marius Strobl wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:07:18AM -0500, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> > > >> On 09/08/13 13:54, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
> > > >>> Open Firmware has three namespaces for handles:
> > > >>> 1. Instance handles, for open devices
> > > >>> 2. Package handles for the client interface
> > > >>> 3. Package handles for device tree cross references
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Powermac hardware, we assume that (2) and (3) are identical and
> > > >>> call both phandles. On embedded FDT systems, you can't open devices
> > > >>> and so we abuse ihandle_t for (3). IBM pSeries hardware, however, has
> > > >>> all three things. With that in mind, I'd like to start separating
> > > >>> them. The patch at
> > > >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/xref_phandle.diff adds a new
> > > >>> function (OF_child_xref_phandle) that takes a phandle of type (3) and
> > > >>> turns into one of type (2) by searching for entries named "phandle",
> > > >>> "ibm,phandle", or "linux,phandle" in the tree. This should work for
> > > >>> FDT as well, but is not connected in the patch to anything actually
> > > >>> FDT related.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Comments would be appreciated. I'd like to get to get this as in as
> > > >>> soon as possible (given the HEAD freeze) otherwise.
> > > >>> -Nathan
> > > >> Since I haven't heard anything, it shouldn't affect any existing
> > > >> platforms or code, and it would be nice to have this interface available
> > > >> in the 10.x series, I plan to ask re@ for commit approval tomorrow.
> > > >> Please let me know if there are any objections.
> > > > Technically that patch is fine. It would be nice if you could fix the
> > > > style bugs before committing, though. In OF_child_xref_phandle(), the
> > > > variables should go above the comment and you don't need to initialize
> > > > the static global one in ofw_pcibus.c to zero explicitly. If you do
> > > > nevertheless, spaces should go before and after the '='.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Thanks! I think the explicit zero initialization adds some clarity for 
> > > people reading the code, so I'd like to keep it. The rest of the changes 
> > > have been made.
> > > -Nathan
> > 
> > The explicit zero init also makes it 4 bytes harder to fit the kernel
> > into a small flash on embedded systems.  We should be eliminating
> > zero-inits that move items from bss to data, not adding new ones.
> 
> I just ran a simple test:
> int foo = 0;
> 
> and compiled it, both with:
> FreeBSD clang version 3.3 (tags/RELEASE_33/final 183502) 20130610
> Target: x86_64-unknown-freebsd10.0
> Thread model: posix
> 
> and:
> FreeBSD clang version 3.3 (trunk 178860) 20130405
> Target: armv6--freebsd
> Thread model: posix
> 
> and:
> gcc (GCC) 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD]
> Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
> 
> all are smart enough to know that zero init is the same as locating it
> in bss, and do so... and not put it in data...  Oh, these were all
> compiled w/o any options, just <compile> -c foo.c...
> 

Huh.  That's pretty surprising to me, because IMO, an explicit zero-init
is NOT the same as putting it in bss, it's explicitly a way to say "I
want this in the data segment."  I guess there are other ways to control
placement these days.

-- Ian





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