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Date:      Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:11:26 +0200
From:      Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely7.cicely.de>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <arm@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: arm alignment faults...
Message-ID:  <20140630131126.GB55631@cicely7.cicely.de>
In-Reply-To: <039F8A84-0193-424C-8093-E411957817E9@bsdimp.com>
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On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:33:59AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> On Jun 28, 2014, at 11:40 PM, John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Warner Losh wrote this message on Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 22:53 -0600:
> >> 
> >> On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:52 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 28 June 2014 21:01, John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> wrote:
> >>>> Adrian Chadd wrote this message on Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 20:44 -0700:
> >>>>> On 28 June 2014 20:38, John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> So, one of the little projects I'd like to see is the removal of
> >>>>>> ETHER_ALIGN from the tree..  This bogosity can (and does) cause the use
> >>>>>> of bouncing durning DMA ops on all ethernet frames...
> >>>> 
> >>>> Now that I think about it, total removal may not be necessary, just
> >>>> the requirement to use it...  If the ethernet dma engine can do half
> >>>> word aligned dma, then there would be benifit on those to keep
> >>>> ETHER_ALIGN...
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Well, as long as you're not doing it by forcing the various CPUs to
> >>>>> handle unaligned accesses.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hard to do on armv4 which I don't believe supports unaligned access...
> >>>> 
> >>>>> The cost of those unaligned accesses on some CPUs that support them is
> >>>>> not trivial. We benchmarked some of the ARM cores at Qualcomm back
> >>>>> when looking to migrate stuff to ARM and it wasn't very quick.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I plan on fixing the TCP/IP stack to copy data to an aligned buffer
> >>>> (maybe only if the original buffer isn't aligned) on the stack when
> >>>> __NO_STRICT_ALIGNMENT is not defined...  I can't see how copying the
> >>>> entire packet is cheaper than copying 20 bytes or so...
> >>> 
> >>> There's lots of other stupid corner cases that screw you.
> >>> 
> >>> VLAN headers add extra bytes.
> >>> 
> >>> 802.11 headers can offset things depending upon the 802.11 frame type
> >>> (3-addr, 4-addr, vlan, no vlan, etc.)
> >>> 
> >>> There's no guarantee all ethernet DMA engines can do the alignment as
> >>> required. :(
> >> 
> >> The ate driver for Atmel?s AT91RM9200 is one such beast.
> > 
> > Are you sure?  The tag for data says alignment 1:
> >        if (bus_dma_tag_create(bus_get_dma_tag(dev), 1, 0,
> >            BUS_SPACE_MAXADDR_32BIT, BUS_SPACE_MAXADDR, NULL, NULL, MCLBYTES,
> >            1, MCLBYTES, 0, busdma_lock_mutex, &sc->sc_mtx, &sc->mtag))
> > 
> > Or is that a limitation on the parent?
> 
> It is a limitation in hardware. You have to DMA to a 4 byte boundary. That might be a bug in the above line though?

It is a limitation of the AT91RM9200.
More recent ate hardware (e.g. AT91SAM9260) don't have this limitation.

> > I did an audit of the arm drivers (not mips), but I didn't see any that
> > have the restriction...  The one that I'm thinking of was the Cirrus
> > EP9302 in the TS-7200 port that I did years ago..
> 



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B.Walter <bernd@bwct.de> http://www.bwct.de
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