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Date:      Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:36:17 +1000
From:      Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews@isc.org>
To:        Volker <volker@vwsoft.com>
Cc:        "Heiko Wundram \(Beenic\)" <wundram@beenic.net>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Problems with named default configuration in 6-STABLE 
Message-ID:  <200707180636.l6I6aHjB049034@drugs.dv.isc.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:44:18 %2B0200." <469C8F72.7040500@vwsoft.com> 

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> On 07/17/07 11:06, Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
> > On Tuesday 17 July 2007 10:52:43 Volker wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >> Relying on a zone transfer doesn't seem to be reliable to me as more
> >> than half of the root servers doesn't reply to AXFR requests.
> > 
> > I've heard pretty much the same thing as you did wrt. root name servers 
> > denying AXFR, but as "it works" (TM), I don't see a reason not to use it. A
> nd 
> > it seems that the author of the FreeBSD default named.conf thought likewise
> , 
> > which is pretty okay with me (from the experience I gathered this morning).
> > 
> > By the way: using the roots as hints only adds to the number of requests yo
> ur 
> > server has to do in order to retrieve first-level domain name servers, so i
> n 
> > the end, the transmitted data should be way higher than doing one AXFR to 
> > find them (simply because you'll see a large subset of those toplevel domai
> ns 
> > being requested when you're publically offering a DNS server). And the data
>  
> > is also cached on an AXFR in persistant storage, which is another major 
> > benefit (for me).
> > 
> 
> Remember, AXFR requires a TCP transfer and not every firewall will
> happily let it pass.

Then the firewall is misconfigured.  Ordinary DNS lookups can require
TCP.  That's what the "tc" flag is for.

> 
> I (partially) agree to the speedup effects you mentioned but if just 5
> out of 13 root servers support AXFR, your bind will sit for a while to
> find a root server responding to it's AXFR requests. That may eat up
> your speed improvements. Type hint for the root zone always works
> (regardless of the firewall and which root server is being queried).
> 
> Volker
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