Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:31:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulf Zimmermann <ulf@Alameda.net> To: steve@visint.co.uk (Stephen Roome) Cc: shovey@buffnet.net, danf@JadeTech.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: T1 upgrade options? Message-ID: <199707091731.KAA12155@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95.970709143950.4426C-100000@dylan.visint.co.uk> from Stephen Roome at "Jul 9, 97 02:46:18 pm"
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> On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Steve Hovey wrote: > > > On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Daniel C. Fifield wrote: > > > I run an ISP in Wisconsin and we are planning an upgrade from a 56KB line > > > to a T1 line. My ISP recommends using a CISCO router. I am looking for > > > alternatives and experience using the CICSO router. > > > > I love my ciscos - its all I will use! Not too long ago, we had a cracker > > attack an older cisco, rendering it useless. Their tech support stayed on > > the phone and got me upgraded to a new operating system and crackerproofed > > in a very short time! > > CISCO's customer support might be great when one of their pieces of > equipment begins to show it's age/vulnerability, I'm not sure however that > it's the best advertising or reason to buy a Cisco. > > I still really don't understand why folks with only a T1 line insist on > buying a separate router, we have E1 here and have a dual port serial card > and a mux. It costs the same to add onto a pc as a Cisco, you still get > tech support and the PC that runs it doesn't do anything else or fall over > ever. Why ? Because what ever system you run your T1 off, PC or SGI or whatever, if it is not a dedicated router, people tend to run other services off it. If you run other services off it, you tend to modify it (for example reboot). That brings down your whole T1 line. I thought long about it, as I started with just a Fractional T1 Frame Relay line for myself and decided at that point to go with a Cisco PC card. It is a complete router, it just takes power from the PC and a com port emulation for the console port. Even with this solution I power cycled the box it was in too often. If customer ask me today about a standalone router or a PC card, I often tell them to get a router like the Engage routers. a T1 with CSU version cost $995 for ISPs. It has no large option in routing protocols, but as an endpoint, they don't need much. The reason I tell them this, it is a standalone box. A black box in the corner. No one is going to touch it. > > Besides, why learn how to use a Cisco router, when you can have a *BSD box > do it for you for the same price/cheaper, but with a lot less hassle if it > goes wrong. > > Check out www.etinc.com and www.sdlcomm.com to name two. > > Anyway, > > Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd. > Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342 > WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/ > > Ulf. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073
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