Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:21:24 -0800 From: Bill Campbell <freebsd@celestial.com> To: freebsd@celestial.com, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD Unix vs. Linux Message-ID: <20040112202124.GA5442@alexis.mi.celestial.com> In-Reply-To: <200401121151.44360.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> References: <1691D8C9A2220149A8AF30209B5D0EB4A6A8F0@sc3.shuaacapital.co.ae> <200401121052.57987.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> <20040112193631.GD89868@alexis.mi.celestial.com> <200401121151.44360.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com>
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On Mon, Jan 12, 2004, Johnson David wrote: >On Monday 12 January 2004 11:36 am, Bill Campbell wrote: > >> ``A bit harder to configure'' is the key when deploying systems for >> commercial use, particularly in the desktop world. I can buy a $300 >> machine from Wal-Mart with SuSE pre-installed, and have it up and >> running on the network with all the essential desktop applications in >> less than fifteen minutes including adding a couple of RPMS (pam_ldap >> and nss_ldap) necessary for network logins. I can plug an Apple >> running OS X into the same network, install X11, and have access to >> all the same software plus some very high-end commercial packages >> that aren't available on any non- Windows Intel systems. > >I was thinking of businesses that have their own admins available, >either as employees, contractors or third party support. I haven't done >this for a living, but from my perspective, FreeBSD is easier and >quicker to install than Windows for an experienced admin. I find almost anything easier to install than Windows! I don't know how many times I've had to do multiple installs to get Windows working more-or- less properly. I should never be within earshot of anybody more sensitive than a sailor or oil-rig roughneck when I have to work on Windows systems because my frustration level usually hits 10 rather quickly. I don't consider myself proficient at installing FreeBSD, compared to installing SuSE and older Caldera Linux as I've been doing the Linux installs for the better part of ten years while am a relative newbie on FreeBSD. It takes me about ten minutes to do a SuSE 9.0 network or DVD install here, where most of the time is in disk partitioning, selecting software packages, and doing the final hardware configuration (e.g. graphics, printers, scanner, etc.). We normally do NFS network installs since it requires no intervention between package selection and the final hardware configuration. >Is FreeBSD that much more difficult to install and administer than >Solaris? Yet there are hundreds of businesses (maybe more) deploying >Solaris on the desktop. The only business I know around here that may run Solaris on the desktop is Boeing, and they're hardly in the SMB category. The last time I installed Solaris on anything was on a Sparc IPX about seven years ago. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Freedom from prices is freedom from responsibility. You can simply pass laws, using the magic wand of government to satisfy your own desires at unspecified costs to be paid by others.'' -- Thomas Sowell Aug 2000
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