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Date:      15 Jan 2000 04:41:19 -0800
From:      asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami)
To:        Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@scc.nl>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Problems with linux_base-6.1
Message-ID:  <vqciu0vh5hs.fsf@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>
In-Reply-To: Marcel Moolenaar's message of "Sat, 15 Jan 2000 10:05:50 %2B0100"
References:  <387E163E.16722C62@scc.nl> <vqc3ds0j3rq.fsf@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <3880386E.A83AB6BA@scc.nl>

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 * From: Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@scc.nl>

 * > I don't assume the kernel can be safely loaded on older release
 * > kernels to get the desired effect?
 * 
 * I don't want to promote that. People should upgrade the complete kernel
 * source at a minimum, IMO. Since I specifically noted that the mail
 * applies to FreeBSD-stable, I assume they know how to update sources
 * (otherwise they wouldn't be running -stable).

Yes, that's what I figured.  (Just checking.)

 * > In that case, I can't put them in
 * > the upgrade kits, can you modify the port to check ${OSVERSION} and
 * > exit with a message if the user's system is too old?
 * 
 * Is that necessary? The ports collection isn't designed for older
 * systems. Most of the ports will work anyway, but some of them don't.

No.  There are millions out there who want to run the latest ports
with release systems.  That's why I make "upgrade kits" to help them.

 * linux_base-6.1 will work on 3.3-RELEASE as well IIRC, that doesn't mean
 * that the linux kernel module is up to it; but that the story of the its
 * life :-)
 * 
 * I deliberately waited until well after 3.4 to upgrade the port, so that
 * it will be in 4.0 and we have enough time to fix any problems on -stable
 * for 3.5.
 * 
 * People running into problems now should be running -stable, not 3.4
 * release or older, right?

I'm not sure what you mean here, do people with 3.3R and 3.4R run into
problems with linux_base?  Or are you saying they shouldn't be running
linux_base from ports-current?

If it's the latter, please add the check, given the nature of your
work I understand that it is impossible to make it work on older
releases, but those who try need to get a easy-to-understand message.

-PW


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