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Date:      Wed, 20 Oct 2021 06:25:10 +0000
From:      "Piotr P. Stefaniak" <pstef@freebsd.org>
To:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com>, Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "<dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>, "dev-commits-src-main@FreeBSD.org" <dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: git: 225639e7db68 - main - vt: Disable bell by default
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In-Reply-To: <YW%2BBmHtM%2B/6JmXkN@FreeBSD.org>
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On 2021-10-20 02:40:24, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 06:55:34PM -0700, Kevin Bowling wrote:
>>
>> I think a POLA violation here was that some equipment emits a
>> jarringly loud noise, and rushing to turn that off is more stressful
>> than the change of turning it on if you value it.
>
>If "some equipment" has a buzzer so annoying that it stresses one
>enough that she gets lost as to how to turn it off then perhaps admin
>of such equipment should complain to its vendor instead.

When I installed FreeBSD on my laptop, I was mostly happy with how it
worked, except it had an Astonishingly loud beeper. I had to waste
Colin's time to learn about how to disable it. Me complaining to vendor
of an old laptop won't buy us anything.

In general, the defaults are really not for you or me. We use FreeBSD no
matter what and whenever a setting is not what we like, we change it, or
the sources. The defaults are for the people who don't have any FreeBSD
configs yet and probably don't intend to write them for some time. Some
people will want to grow their own configs over time, unless they're
discouraged by the generally unfriendly look and feel of FreeBSD.

Piotr



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