Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:48:31 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz> To: bsdfsse <bsdfsse@optonline.net> Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do I upgrade from 5.x to anything ? Message-ID: <4157716F.5080408@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <415766F7.3070301@optonline.net> References: <415766F7.3070301@optonline.net>
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bsdfsse wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have been running 4.10-Stable for about 3 weeks, and one of my
> computers doesn't work with it.
> Apparently FreeBSD 4.x doesn't like the Asus motherboard's HD
> controller, and I constantly get disk
> errors. HOWEVER, 5.x seems to work fine.
>
Seems strange, but not impossible.
> For the last few weeks, I've been going through this ritual of
> installing 4.10-Release, then immediately
> upgrading to 4-Stable - using the instructions in a book I bought
> ("Absolute BSD").
>
> My big machine has an Asus motherboard, 160GB, and 2 x 200GB Maxtor
> drives. It also has a new
> 400w power supply, and a Celeron chip. I basically replaced every
> part of the machine trying to get to
> 4.x to work, then gave up and am trying to run 5.x.
>
> Is there something I should be doing after I install 5.x-Release to
> get the latest software? On 4.x I would
> install "cvsup" and "cvsup-without-gui", then running "cvs -g -L 2
> stable-supfile", and finally doing a make
> buildworld, etc, etc. I have no idea what my options are on 5.x
Same story. But you don't need to install both "cvsup" and
"cvsup-without-gui". Unless you've just
gotta have eye candy, just install the nogui version and run it in an
xterm or something ... or an
alternate console...
>
> I heard 5.x-Stable is coming out in October, so does that mean you
> can't really update 5.x until October?
> I installed the 5.3-Beta CD, but the stable-supfile looks like it will
> try to get the 4.x stable code. I also did
> not really want to run "current" since this machine is supposed to be
> my home server.
>
HEAD is now been tagged as version 6 ... you're right that you don't
want that. See more below...
> I mostly want my ports up to date, so I can run Thunderbird, Firefox,
> etc (if they are available on 5.x).
>
Well, you don't need to cvsup *src* to get your ports up to date. Your
ports tree would need to
be updated, and then reinstall those ports. Or use portupgrade ...
And the ports tree is the same for everybody. You always cvsup CURRENT
ports ....
> Maybe I should make my working 4.x box my "server", and make my
> nonworking machine a 5.x "desktop".
>
> My original plan was to run 4.x on all my home boxen, then load 5.x
> when it got to around 5.3.1 - except
> now my big box wont run 4.x. So I am forced to load 5.x now, or just
> let the machine sit for a month.
>
If you have 5.3BETA, run it, and cvsup/makebuildworld, etc next month.
Not a problem AFAIK. Now,
if you'd been running 5.1 that'd be a different story, as I understand
it ....
> Another option is to try and use the help on the mail lists to figure
> out why 4.x wont run on my big box.
> I tried so many things I don't really want to think about it anymore,
> lol. The Asus motherboard is a replacement
> for another one that died while initially trying to install 4.x I
> literally replaced everything inside the case: power
> supply, motherboard, chip, drive controller, RAM, HD's, cables, CDR's,
> cables. The current error is the hardware
> error "Signal 11". %-(
>
> Well back to my original question: Any suggestions on how to get the
> currently available 5.x tree modestly
> up-to-date? Or should I wait until it matures more?
>
> thx!
>
Well, 5.3BETA is pretty doggone up to date if you ask me ... but, whatever.
An understanding of the RELEASE tags might help. That information
is in the Handbook, Chapter 19 IIRC, "The Cutting Edge".
You should be able to modify the stable-supfile to grab RELENG_5 instead
of RELENG_4, this would get you to "BETA3", methinks (haven't checked
the site today, but IIRC that's what was on ftp two days ago when I was
there.)
For ports, use /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile when you cvsup.
You may also want to install portupgrade (/usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade),
although there were problems with it a few days ago; I think they're fixed
now, caveat emptor and YMMV and all that ....
Kevin Kinsey
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