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Date:      Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:48:28 -0500
From:      "Jim King" <king@sstar.com>
To:        "Matt Heckaman" <matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET>, "Brad Knowles" <blk@skynet.be>
Cc:        "FreeBSD-STABLE" <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Compatibility Question
Message-ID:  <024301bfdf6c$d3e58680$08e48486@marble>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0006260733330.2314-100000@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca>

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Heckaman" <matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET>
To: "Brad Knowles" <blk@skynet.be>
Cc: "FreeBSD-STABLE" <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: Compatibility Question

Matt Heckaman wrote:
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> On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Brad Knowles wrote:
>
> : It's been my experience that when you start talking about
> : significant amounts of RAM (anything over 128-256MB), you really,
> : *really*, *REALLY* want to be using ECC.
>
> Interesting, I've always personally thought ECC to be somewhat overrated
> and certaintly overpriced. Granted I do not have that much expierence in
> comparison to some, but I have a machine here running 512M of non-ECC for
> over a year now without any ram-related problems. (HD did die once though)
>
> ...
> : Depending on what you're doing, how much down time results, how
> : much your time costs per hour, and how much work is lost by all your
> : customers, a single crash could cost you more than the ECC RAM that
> : could have prevented that crash.
>
> I don't know, 512M (2x256) of ECC RAM will cost me 2,200$ - that's an
> awful nasty hit to be taking for what the server will do, which is a
> generally nasty business called shell services. In other words, there is
> no single client paying thousands of dollars for web hosting of their
> company's core page that will cost them (and me) a fortune for any
> downtime :) Given this situation, I've a hard time justifying that cost,
> which is only a few hundred dollars less then the *entire* machine is
> going to cost me, especially for it's role :)

Where are you buying your memory!?  Crucial (http://www.crucial.com) has
2x256MB ECC registered SDRAM for about $800; I'm sure other places have
similar (or better) prices.  Well worth it, IMHO.

Jim




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