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Date:      Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:14:31 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>, "James Howard" <howardjp@Glue.umd.edu>, "Brad Knowles" <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc:        "Konstantinos Konstantinidis" <kkonstan@duth.gr>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: A breath of fresh air..
Message-ID:  <a05101027b8377b914fad@[10.0.1.16]>
In-Reply-To: <01c101c17fb8$db2cc960$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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At 8:20 AM +0100 on 2001/12/08, Anthony Atkielski wrote:

>  If you require a GUI, why wouldn't you use X?

	Because Aqua is available.  Because Aqua is defined as the 
standard GUI for MacOS X.  Because there are already way more 
applications that work in Aqua than work in X.  Because the 
applications that are available in both Aqua and X are much better in 
their Aqua incarnation.  Because Aqua is measurably better.

>                                                 Doesn't that negate the
>  utility and advantage provided by X in favor of UNIX?

	The only reason to have X is to maintain backward compatibility.

>>  Because, so far, Apple has decided not to
>>  include one.
>
>  I didn't ask why an X server was not included.  I asked why Apple's GUI is
>  not itself an X server.

	Dunno.  Ask Apple.

>>  Frankly, I don't see a whole lot here that
>>  I find unusual.
>
>  It only takes one program.  On MS-DOS, all you had to do was type "win."

	Right.  Like this was actually just a single program.

>>  You don't have to use most of the unusual
>>  stuff if you don't want to.
>
>  Are you sure?  If I remove all the unusual stuff, for example, will the
>  Apple GUI still operate?

	Tell me -- under Windows, if you remove everything that is not 
MS-DOS but the one program named "win", will the GUI still operate?

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

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