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Date:      Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:01:38 +0100
From:      "Kristian Hansen" <kristian.hansen@post.tele.dk>
To:        "Sung-Shik Yang" <syang1@cox.rr.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: cdrom
Message-ID:  <001701c1a199$739ad640$0601a8c0@DELL01>
References:  <006101c1a1a2$fa5171e0$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh>

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Hi,

This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ an IDE drive, hence it does not show in the BIOS.
The drive is likely to be an OEM Matshushita 2x speed drive. It uses a proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE interface.

There is a driver for FreeBSD for this device (matcd), but it is not in the generic kernel. 
You have two optios for how to install:
1) Make a custom kernel, including the matcd driver and create your own boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed with the install. You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at this stage, rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As far as I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount point.

2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then create a custom kernel including the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable connection to the internet, this is the option I'll recommend you use.

Regards

Kristian Hansen
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sung-Shik Yang 
  To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org 
  Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:09 PM
  Subject: cdrom


  Hi everyone,
   
  I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on an old Pentium machine from CDROM, but it didn't even detect the CDROM.  The following is the spec.
   
  Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB RAM
  Separate I/O controller card (Winbond chip, SMC chip), which connects to an HDD and an FDD.
  One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE Master).
  SoundBlaster 16 card.
  CDROM manufactured by Creative Labs Inc., which made the sound card above.
   
  Strange thing is, the BIOS wouldn't define the CDROM.  There's 4 IDE sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec. master/slave), but they are specificly for HDD configuration with cyl/head/sec stuff.  If I just put "user"(-defined) option there and make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, then the setup freezes even before memory checking step.  So, I have to leave all three IDE settings as "none" at least to boot normally.
   
  The sound card has two ports.  The indicator says one of them is "IDE interface" and the other is "SoundBlaster Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or something.  Currently the CDROM cable is connected to the "IDE interface" port of the sound card.  The jumper at the back of the CDROM drive is set as "slave".  So, I guess it signifies that the CDROM should be treated as primary slave IDE device, while the BIOS doesn't even know its presence.  Even more strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected somehow and runs fine.
   
  Any ideas or advices?

   
  Sung-Shik Yang
  ==================================
  Make what is impossible possible.
  Man can die only once, not twice.
          - Special Warfare Command
  Do what a man can do, 
     then wait for heaven's will.
  ==================================

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ an IDE 
drive, hence it does not show in the BIOS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The drive is likely to be an OEM Matshushita 2x 
speed drive. It uses a proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE 
interface.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is a driver for FreeBSD for this device 
(matcd), but it is not in the generic kernel. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You have two optios for how to 
install:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1) Make a custom kernel, including the matcd driver 
and create your own boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed with the 
install. You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at this stage, 
rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As far as I 
remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount point.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then create a 
custom kernel including the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable 
connection to the internet, this is the option I'll recommend you 
use.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kristian Hansen</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:syang1@cox.rr.com" title=syang1@cox.rr.com>Sung-Shik Yang</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" 
  title=freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org>freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:09 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> cdrom</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Hi everyone,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on an 
  old Pentium machine from CDROM, but it didn't even detect the CDROM.&nbsp; The 
  following is the spec.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB RAM</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Separate I/O controller card (Winbond 
  chip, SMC chip), which connects to an&nbsp;HDD&nbsp;and 
  an&nbsp;FDD.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE 
  Master).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>SoundBlaster 16 card.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>CDROM manufactured by Creative Labs Inc., 
  which made the sound card above.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Strange thing is, the BIOS wouldn't 
  define the CDROM.&nbsp; There's 4 IDE sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec. 
  master/slave), but they are specificly for HDD configuration with cyl/head/sec 
  stuff.&nbsp; If I just put "user"(-defined) option there and make the 
  cyl/head/sec fields as 0, then the setup freezes even before memory checking 
  step.&nbsp; So, I have to leave all three IDE settings as "none" at least to 
  boot normally.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>The sound card has two ports.&nbsp; The 
  indicator says one of them is "IDE interface" and the other is "SoundBlaster 
  Pro / Panasonic CDROM"&nbsp;or something.&nbsp; Currently the CDROM cable is 
  connected to&nbsp;the "IDE interface" port of the sound card.&nbsp;&nbsp;The 
  jumper at the back of the CDROM drive is set as "slave".&nbsp; So, I guess it 
  signifies that the CDROM should be treated as&nbsp;primary&nbsp;slave IDE 
  device, while the BIOS doesn't even know&nbsp;its presence.&nbsp; Even more 
  strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected somehow and runs 
  fine.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Any ideas or advices?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Sung-Shik 
  Yang<BR>==================================<BR>Make what is impossible 
  possible.<BR>Man can die only once, not 
  twice.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Special Warfare 
  Command<BR>Do what a man can do, <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; then wait for heaven's 
  will.<BR>==================================</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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