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Date:      Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:56:08 -0400
From:      Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org>
To:        Chris Coleman <chrisc@vmunix.com>
Cc:        Arjan van Leeuwen <avleeuwen@piwebs.com>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD PR
Message-ID:  <20020913135608.A1934@blackhelicopters.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0209131345180.2425-100000@vnode.vmunix.com>; from chrisc@vmunix.com on Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 01:50:19PM -0400
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Thanks, Chris!  Especially for the review copies, we'll hopefully need
them.  :-)

On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 01:50:19PM -0400, Chris Coleman wrote:
> I have two venues available to me to send PR stuff to, but it would have
> to be wrapped into the form of an article.  ie, I can accept articles for
> daemonnews.org and oreillynet.com/bsd and get them published.  This isn't
> direct PR, but writing about a product and how it works in actual usage is
> really very good PR.
> 
> Daily.daemonnews.org is pretty good for posting PR relates stuff to, but
> its mostly preaching to the choir and I'd like to see this get beyond the
> current congregation. (But don't forget to post it to daily afterward!)
> 
> Oh, and if we need to send copies of FreeBSD to press people to review,
> just let me know.
> 
> Chris Coleman		Editor in Chief
> Daemon News E-Zine	http://www.daemonnews.org
> Print Magazine		http://magazine.daemonnews.org
> BSD Mall		http://www.bsdmall.com
> 
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, Michael Lucas wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > You know, I don't think I kicked this anthill hard enough; not many of
> > you are stirring.
> > 
> > I'm picking Arjan's response to reply to in a general context, rather
> > than replying to everyone.  This might make it seem that I'm talking
> > only with Arjan, but that's not my intent -- I simply am not writing
> > this several times over.  I also received several personal replies,
> > and am going to respond to some of the issues raised in general here.
> > 
> > First off, I'm glad some of you give a dang.  We agree that PR is
> > important.  (In related news, we agree that Pluto is a bit chilly in
> > the summer.)
> > 
> > One issue I'd like to address right off is summarized nicely by Arjan
> > here:
> > 
> > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 09:09:39PM +0200, Arjan van Leeuwen wrote:
> > > I'd love to see a PR team, and I'd love to be part of it too (if that's 
> > > possible). 
> > 
> > Yes, it is possible, and yes, we would love to have you.
> > 
> > One comment that was frequently raised was, "I can't help, I'm not a
> > committer!"
> > 
> > Well, I am a committer, and I have to say that being a committer is
> > not necessary to do any FreeBSD work.  But a commit bit is considered
> > a benefit for FreeBSD contributors, so: you want a commit bit, you can
> > have it, more easily than most.  Here's how:
> > 
> > One of our first tasks needs to be updating
> > http://www.freebsd.org/news/press.html.
> > 
> > I want this page updated with links that show FreeBSD mentions in the
> > press, especially those that demonstrate FreeBSD technology uptake by
> > other companies (i.e., Apple), not just ones that say "wow, FreeBSD is
> > kewl."  Snippets on personal Web pages don't count, sorry.  These need
> > to be "real" press articles.  I'm not going to go and define what real
> > press is: I know it when I see it.
> > 
> > Install /usr/ports/textproc/docproj and /usr/ports/textproc/ispell.
> > CVSup the source for the www tree (collection www).  Edit
> > www/en/news/press.xml to include the links and blurbs.  Spellcheck the
> > file, validate it with the DocProj tools, and build it to see that it
> > works.  Check the links to be sure they work, too.  Then submit your
> > changes as a PR.
> > 
> > Pardon the self promotion, but:
> > 
> > Installing user tools:
> > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/02/08/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
> > 
> > Changing the docs:
> > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/02/22/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
> > 
> > Submitting the PRs:
> > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/03/08/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
> > 
> > You can also find this info scattered throughout the FreeBSD web site,
> > especially in the Docproj Primer, but you cannot say I don't make it
> > easy for you!  :-)
> > 
> > So, here's the deal:
> > 
> > Submit updates to the "In The Press" page.  rwatson sent out a nice
> > list of links, which I'm going to count as one set of updates.  Make
> > sure your patches are clean, meaning that they apply cleanly, and
> > don't break the Web build.
> > 
> > Submit twelve clean patches in a row, through proper FreeBSD channels,
> > and I will sponsor you for a commit bit of your very own.  Do us all a
> > favor, though, and post here that you have a press PR in the queue on
> > story such-and-such; that will save others here the time and trouble
> > to do it.
> > 
> > By accepting this commit bit, you will also accept the responsibility
> > to maintain the FreeBSD "In the Press" page.
> > 
> > It may take you a couple patches to get right, and you may have to ask
> > questions, but that's OK.  Really.  If you wind up submitting fourteen
> > patches total because the first two needed correction, that's the
> > learning curve.  I went through it -- heck, Robert Watson went through
> > it, and he's now one of the Core members and a highfaluting',
> > respected kernel security guy.
> > 
> > In case of dispute, the person who gets to decide is me; if I'm
> > sponsoring you, that means I'm putting my good name behind you, so you
> > better measure up to my standards.  (I'm not that bad, ask Tom Rhodes
> > about rewriting the NFS chapter of the Handbook.  Actually, on second
> > thought, don't.  ;-)
> > 
> > If you're too late, don't sweat it.  There will be other tasks that
> > can earn you a commit bit.
> > 
> > > More press coverage would help FreeBSD a great deal.
> > 
> > This is the crux of the issue.
> > 
> > It looks like this is our "to do list."
> > 
> > a) A way to inject press releases into the PR stream.
> > b) A way to catch PR-worthy stuff within the Project.
> > c) Actually writing press releases.
> > d) More articles in the press, especially paper press.
> > e) People to review FreeBSD 5 DP2 and 5.0-R
> > f) presentations
> > g) posters
> > 
> > I had some private email suggestions for a), but I'd like to drag
> > those people out into the open and see if they'd be willing to take
> > this on for us.  If not, some of you with a bit of spare time and
> > Google could make some good suggestions on how to do this.
> > 
> > b) is comparatively easy.  Watch -hackers, cvs-all, and -current, and
> > pay attention!
> > 
> > Actually writing press releases, c) is fairly straightforward.  We
> > have some old press releases in the tree now, in the press directory.
> > I would absolutely love to have a professional PR person to write
> > these, but we can do it ourselves.  It must be done, so we must do it.
> > 
> > d) rides on people writing articles.  I did this for years, until I
> > got "promoted" into writing BSD books.  But press releases will get
> > other people to do the writing for us!
> > 
> > Review copies, e) can be had from our corporate sponsors.  Rather than
> > have everyone harass our corporate sponsors with suggestions, it would
> > be good if we here on -advocacy built our own comprehensive list of
> > people to contact.  I'm sure we could get some info from our sponsors
> > on what contacts they have, and we could work on expanding that list.
> > 
> > Presentations are fairly straightforward.  I'm going to push
> > MagicPoint (/usr/ports/misc/magicpoint) as a tool here, because it's
> > very low-overhead.  Yes, StarOffice has a nice presentation tool, and
> > I'm sure KDE and Gnome do as well, but I think it would be a bad idea
> > to require such big-ass programs for people to run a presentation.
> > Besides, the MagicPoint format is easy to edit.  If you want to create
> > a presentation on FreeBSD, go right ahead!  I don't care if it sucks,
> > it's a start.  Remember: "If it sucks, rework until it sucks less."
> > 
> > To show how easy MagicPoint is, I have my BSDCon 2002 presentation
> > available at
> > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/presentation2k2.mgp.
> > 
> > Posters, g), are actually the most difficult thing here.  We could
> > probably ask one of our corporate sponsors for a poster in electronic
> > form.  What format would be best?
> > 
> > > With version 5 coming up, we have a great chance to get people to look at 
> > > FreeBSD, and to get a lot of positive press. We'd be fools to let that chance
> > > pass by. 
> > 
> > We could be something worse than fools.
> > 
> > We could be lazy.
> > 
> > ==ml
> > 
> > -- 
> > Michael Lucas		mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org
> > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons
> > 
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