Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 10:07:51 +0000 From: Robert Crowston <crowston@protonmail.com> To: Jason Tubnor <jason@tubnor.net> Cc: Peter Grehan <grehan@freebsd.org>, Matt Churchyard <matt.home@userve.net>, FreeBSD virtualization <freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: bhyve current windows status Message-ID: <g1l869D_OwQvTV5cYHDYEGUOBGQFoO3x0H430c9uXy5ZFtrwVvQ8nAbCawhtrRz1wEWNV0mfmh_RusvuaRqNozlNFRrKxWiNptFGMga-UdE=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CACLnyCJGVrotVKbKGKChvp8TRHwFdb=JbtY0_AJoGvgmp=mccA@mail.gmail.com> References: <7850c18aba62e6150f227f3c1168974c@userve.net> <4d863f34-6df0-0b0a-f487-e492324e8752@freebsd.org> <CACLnyCJGVrotVKbKGKChvp8TRHwFdb=JbtY0_AJoGvgmp=mccA@mail.gmail.com>
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nvme is faster than virtio-blk? It seems strange that a paravirtualized dri= ver would be slower. Is that because of the regression you mention? =E2=80=94 RHC. =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Sunday, 11 April 2021 04:49, Jason Tubnor <jason@tubnor.net> wrote: > Hi Matt, > > Further to Peter's input below, I have added what we have in production f= or > Windows Server 2016/2019 > > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 16:30, Peter Grehan grehan@freebsd.org wrote: > > > > What are the current recommended devices/options for Windows (2019 > > > server in my case) - especially with ZFS. Should I be specifying a > > > 512/4096 sector/block size via bhyve and/or zfs? I assume nvme & > > > virtio-net are the current best options but is there a preferred virt= io > > > driver version. Are any of the other virtio drivers of any use to be > > > installed or just the network drivers? > > > > nvme - yes. > > If using 12.2 or greater, NVMe across the board for guests. We will be > switching over once we bring the fleet of appliances up to 13.0 upon > release. > > If you are using 11.4, virtio-stor is your only option if you are after > performance. While you can use ahci-hd, this is shockingly slow. About 2 > versions ago of the VirtIO stack users of the virtio-stor drivers saw a > regression in the driver take out whole virtual storage devices. Running > the latest one as at 11 April 2021 should be fine for you. > > > I'll leave the sector/block size issues to others. I don't touch any > > of those params but don't use enough Windows apps to make a qualified c= all. > > We set volblocksize=3D4k for all guests unless the guest is running MSSQL= , in > which case, volblocksize=3D512. We have observed significant storage > consumption when using this smaller block size, likely due to the checksu= m > overhead for small amounts of committed data. > > No need for other virtio drivers. For virtio-net, the recommendation > > > is to use the latest one. > > > > > Are there any known problems with applications like AD/Exchange? I kn= ow > > > that SQL 2012 had massive storage overhead issues on ZFS due to 512 b= yte > > > writes, but I'm not sure if that still affects newer versions or othe= r > > > applications? > > > > As above, I'll leave it up to others to chime in here. > > Yes, that still applies. It is clear that you have discovered what we hav= e > (as also what I typed above for others to reference). I don't believe tha= t > has been fixed by Microsoft yet. I may get around to testing against newe= r > versions over the next couple of months. > > Cheers, > > Jason. > > freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualization > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-virtualization-unsubscribe@free= bsd.org"
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