Date: 05 Sep 2002 16:05:58 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us> To: Andrew Boothman <andrew@cream.org> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NO_SENDMAIL Message-ID: <1031267158.24794.168.camel@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> In-Reply-To: <3D777D3A.8020601@cream.org> References: <1031191858.24794.127.camel@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <3D777D3A.8020601@cream.org>
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On Thu, 2002-09-05 at 08:50, Andrew Boothman wrote: > Joe Kelsey wrote: > > >following rules in /usr/sup/refuse: > > > >*/sendmail* > >*/etc/mtree/*sendmail* > >*/share/doc/*sendmail* > > > >This seems to prevent sendmail from acquiring anything more than a token > >foothold on my system. I look forward to the day when sendmail, bind, > >inetd and other mal-ware is removed from the base system and relegated > >to ports where they belong. I also await the official release of 5.0 so > >I can build a system without an ancient, broken perl. > > > This has been discussed to death in various freebsd- lists before. > > Basically, most people expect unix systems to ship with a working mail > subsystem and, whatever your personal feelings about it, sendmail is the > industry standard. FreeBSD doesn't have a suffiently fine-grained > component-based distribution system to enable us to start splitting > every piece of contributed software off, and making them all optional. > > In the interest of shipping a 'fully functional' system, sendmail is > included in the base distribution. > > Personally, I don't think that sendmail_enable="NONE" is too much to ask > to disable sendmail. You only need NO_SENDMAIL if you want to stop it > being built. The reason I am so adamant about putting the sendmail stuff in my refuse file is to stop the creeping featureitis, wherein, some supposedly innocuous *feature* of sendmail creeps into my system and opens up a big gaping hole, as everything related to sendmail is wont to do. The answer to your sendmail "standard" issue is the same answer to the perl "standard" issue -- leave it off the base system, but make it a "mandantory" port to be installed after system installation. /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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