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Date:      Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:59:58 +0100 (CET)
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= <groudier@club-internet.fr>
To:        Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc:        freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 68-80 on curdle second scsi chan
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.10011032243330.1964-100000@linux.local>
In-Reply-To: <E13rnO3-0000IT-00@rip.psg.com>

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On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Randy Bush wrote:

> the asus cur-dls has a sym dual controller
>=20
>     sym0: <896> port 0xb400-0xb4ff mem 0xf9000000-0xf9001fff,\
>           0xf9800000-0xf98003ff irq 9 at device 5.0 on pci1
>     sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking
>     sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
>     sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.
>     sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS.
>     sym1: <896> port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xf8000000-0xf8001fff,\
>           0xf8800000-0xf88003ff irq 9 at device 5.1 on pci1
>     sym1: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking
>     sym1: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM
>     sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.
>     sym1: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS.
>     (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered.
>     (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered.
>     da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
>     da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
>     Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
>     (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered.
>     (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered.
>     Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a
>     da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
>     da0: <IBM DDYS-T18350N S93E> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device=20
>     da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), \
> =09 Tagged Queueing Enabled
>     da0: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C)
>     da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
>     da1: <IBM DDYS-T18350N S93E> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device=20
>     da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), \
> =09 Tagged Queueing Enabled
>     da1: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C)
>=20
> it seems quite happy with the two ultra-2 drives on a 68pin cable on chan=
 0.
>=20
> the second channel is also a 68pin.  i want to put on two old cd-rom
> drives.  so i got a nicely terminated cable [0], and put on two 68m-to-80=
f
> adapters, see <http://www.scsi-cables.com/images/50large.gif>.
>=20
> when booting, the system takes a loooooong time to scan the second scsi
> channel, and does not see the drives.
>=20
> i am probably doing something very naive/stoopid.  clues solicited.

It may well be a termination problem, in my opinion.

Given what you want to achieve, the Wide BUS must be terminated with SE
(single ended signaling) at controller side and the Narrow one must be SE
terminated at the other end.

The Wide-to-Narrow adapter you are using seems to just connect the low
part of the Wide BUS to its output and just doesn't care of the high part.

Cause can be, for example:

- If your SCSI controller uses some kind of auto-termination magic, it may
  well be confused by your configuration and not terminate the Wide BUS=20
  properly at the controller side.
- If there is no terminator (normally LVD/SE capable) on the controller,
  then the BUS is just not terminated at this side.

Basically, as long as you cannot make sure that the BUS is actually
terminated as required by the tinking you want to achieve, you should not
expect your SCSI system to work properly.

  G=E9rard.



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