Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:03:26 -0500 From: "A. Wilcox" <AWilcox@Wilcox-Tech.com> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-11.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso is too big for my 700MB CD-r Message-ID: <5785692E.8090203@Wilcox-Tech.com> In-Reply-To: <51734d0a-60da-6439-b5c1-1af14e740d00@multiplay.co.uk> References: <op.ykgfddt2kndu52@eveline> <CAG6CVpW3rGEoqTcQodY%2BWVPVsTdxUd6OsB%2BzAq1k7Y-vUrdaSg@mail.gmail.com> <5784908E.1090007@ShaneWare.Biz> <20160712195228.GB20860@lonesome.com> <CAG6CVpUJH0ADJm3k=Eo%2Bno1PVHPcU6pjEcwZkEuNm1viBtSPiA@mail.gmail.com> <20160712205049.GH20831@zxy.spb.ru> <51734d0a-60da-6439-b5c1-1af14e740d00@multiplay.co.uk>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --kX5afkUOfOf8uEbmdLv5cIVAPrhrhEjVl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/07/16 15:58, Steven Hartland wrote: > On 12/07/2016 21:50, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 01:39:34PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote: >> >>> Maybe Tier 2 can deal with just bootonly.iso. Or your machines shoul= d >>> be dropped from Tier 2 if they don't support USB and we aren't okay >>> with dropping disc1 support for all of Tier 2. That is pretty much all SPARC hardware and a lot of POWER hardware. Not to mention newer rack-mount servers that have no USB on front (IBM). And what of the servers that already have functional CD drives? Do we really now have to recommending buying SCSI/SATA slimline or USB DVD drives just to boot installation media? That's a heavy cost when you can fit nearly all other BSDs on a single regular 650 (84 MB for NetBSD 7.0.1 + 223 MB for OpenBSD 5.9 + 385 MB for "TrueOS"/PC-BSD Server 10.3 =3D 692 MB, all sizes amd64 install iso including sets). >> Not all BIOS can be boot from USB. >> I am have Fujitsu notebook not support USB boot. > From a USB Pen drive I can understand but from a USB DVD Drive that > would be some seriously antiquated hardware! I have a Core 2-era Xeon board (Wolfdale-DP, Intel 5000 based) that cannot under any circumstances boot from a connected USB device. It won't boot from a USB DVD, USB CD, USB pen, or USB hard disk (USBMSC). I hardly consider a server that is 7 years old "antiquated" though I concede it is not the newest. Beyond that, there are security issues with allowing servers to boot off of any random USB device that an admin has lying around. Most will be configured by good admins to not do such a thing. In summary: NAK NAK NAK. USB is not a solution. Bringing down the bloat on disc1 or returning to miniinst is the proper solution. ~arw --=20 A. Wilcox (awilfox) Open-source programmer (C, C++, Python) https://code.foxkit.us/u/awilfox/ --kX5afkUOfOf8uEbmdLv5cIVAPrhrhEjVl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXhWk0AAoJEMspy1GSK50UpnQP/RdWrp7SYLRNty0fCXh2oy+8 yWydmqwCK4ufRiA5RVuwUu8fyD/p/42vaNpSZM1uSNT6IsHJ5GrZakIuaoCWtUqM +5QLfkpK1MvXEFhVIeb6Vnd6MWpzEdw9Mg1XlMngB4SHq03wyxXbOgDJoUc1Je/s fzIZX8DFMMsjL6ebEWxP2jTzYmhOXvotu+/GzsK07B/3KKGplDUbYpEOh9lduDDx gHLMTUMuP/HT0rbw88s9KlKz2iGLa1aLxPJ8LRZnDUXVRbv55Us8AFRiNCkoeJXY X/iP2YEcEJ6eL3QubEdwcYZIoDzwuF90JgOsyuDYSIjmTiFmo62Hh7kljyIZMANM awhEuuDDcTGHbAg87TuVqF9c4tlW54oW9JO1s6GljURUo15WqVqYNwm5EIJDxmS5 EcgMhkWVdotd3RV3IIeksWLiqJ/LEmP8U8TE8rtkroKQ/ZZCSK1LmWHhrha7jQl5 6q9YC6zQJNSFa5vDQxLjO0tzspbcgIA+VL924dPQisyMLRzd3xGELSxfyvaMth56 XBtMUj20KTTHV9Ef6B5VeCqbsQKPx/vb48Yy+6wwUbzCAfavGyDUT9o1K/axxObG l1aRPfD1xHAY+lB4wrxiOx1Eq6Kdo6i6r+vfiGuRfPH6siSW7e/uXXILCAwrn0yl ZJ7rVTW/j5QU2Fs1C8Y8 =QhTM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kX5afkUOfOf8uEbmdLv5cIVAPrhrhEjVl--
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