Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:44:54 +0100 From: "K. Macy" <kmacy@freebsd.org> To: Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Steve Wills <swills@freebsd.org>, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?z_W=B1sikowski?= <lukasz@wasikowski.net>, Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@gmail.com>, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net> Subject: Re: flowtable usable or not Message-ID: <CAHM0Q_MZM6Gn_zPzxz5tLuzPOW=kK9YxqmrLTyitvGfAPhrkbw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5088CA.1090108@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120221143537.Horde.deyFDZjmRSRPQ52pxBIpnLA@webmail.leidinger.net> <BA7FFA2D-DEE6-4FB7-AE26-0BC79CBFD8C0@lists.zabbadoz.net> <4F4BA707.5070608@wasikowski.net> <4F4C3FE7.3040802@FreeBSD.org> <CACqU3MWx3pMMDncvOita-OAgfe=NPKtwKE2WeB_mdcYwozY81Q@mail.gmail.com> <4F4D51CB.2010508@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D5E5D.9040302@FreeBSD.org> <4F4DD288.5060106@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_O%2BCt6yhRL=B9oxgkL8EgLxZdo7-KFO2C8HqiN1=Kx_bw@mail.gmail.com> <4F4ED889.2070608@FreeBSD.org> <4F500BB9.4040307@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_OfeB7Kb=pgjGq0uffLJdJROGoCaGz=25Jito-kweAxRQ@mail.gmail.com> <4F5088CA.1090108@FreeBSD.org>
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> Apparently you've missed all the times that I've given that exact advice. :) > > But your analogy is severely flawed. Flowtable was an experimental > feature that theoretically might have increased performance for some > work flows, but turned out to be fatally flawed. The ports system is an > essential part of the FreeBSD operating *system*, depended on by > virtually 100% of FreeBSD users. Certainly fatally flawed without any user support. Just as many new features have been. > Users don't have any obligation to help us debug new/experimental features. Correct. However, I'm not sure the analogy is flawed. I am, to some degree, guilty of the same sin. I now run Ubuntu and have never had a single problem keeping my package system up date, in stark contrast to my experiences of slow and nightmarishly error-ridden port updates. I know there are users who have operated without such problems. It is entirely possible that they're simply smarter than I am. I similarly feel no compunction to use a FreeBSD feature (the ports system) that I can't rely on. Cheers
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