Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:50:20 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org> Cc: Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, Mike Karels <mike@karels.net>, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "<dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>" <dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org>, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 24e1824e4646 - main - Deprecate telnet daemon Message-ID: <CANCZdfrwNUBd-7PXfbZcD2M%2BmSZOrJh%2BM%2BKnXHq=qg7yVFOs%2Bg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5c162710def7eb94c032dfab73e9560e@lerctr.org> References: <202209211517.28LFHkoJ089471@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20220921163951.17C77AC@slippy.cwsent.com> <8EC34FC3-F299-4B03-AD4E-83D062D0E9F6@karels.net> <Yyt%2BEOM/Bnth88Xv@FreeBSD.org> <5c162710def7eb94c032dfab73e9560e@lerctr.org>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 3:21 PM Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org> wrote: > On 09/21/2022 4:11 pm, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > Mike, > > > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 01:02:17PM -0500, Mike Karels wrote: > > M> I have no problem with deprecating (or removing) telnetd in base. I > > M> think the client should remain, though. I use it frequently, > > although > > M> not on the telnet port. ftp* are another issue; anonymous FTP is a > > M> perfectly reasonable usage. I use it to download FreeBSD images > > often. > > > > Is there any service where telnet to a port would be preferred over > > nc(1)? > > telnet <host> <port> is basically finger memory (at least for me), and > nc isn't > in base (AFAIR) > Deprecating telnet***d*** doesn't change that at all. telnet, the client, is still in base.. but so is nc and it has been since (git blame usr.bin/nc/Makefile.... ) 2005. Warner [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 3:21 PM Larry Rosenman <<a href="mailto:ler@lerctr.org">ler@lerctr.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 09/21/2022 4:11 pm, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:<br> > Mike,<br> > <br> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 01:02:17PM -0500, Mike Karels wrote:<br> > M> I have no problem with deprecating (or removing) telnetd in base. I<br> > M> think the client should remain, though. I use it frequently, <br> > although<br> > M> not on the telnet port. ftp* are another issue; anonymous FTP is a<br> > M> perfectly reasonable usage. I use it to download FreeBSD images <br> > often.<br> > <br> > Is there any service where telnet to a port would be preferred over <br> > nc(1)?<br> <br> telnet <host> <port> is basically finger memory (at least for me), and <br> nc isn't<br> in base (AFAIR)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Deprecating telnet***d*** doesn't change that at all. telnet, the client, is still in<br></div><div>base.. but so is nc and it has been since (git blame usr.bin/nc/Makefile.... ) 2005.</div><div><br></div><div>Warner<br></div></div></div>
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