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Date:      Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:19:56 -0400
From:      Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
To:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: I'll wait for a solid 4.4-RELEASE -- a month, if necessary
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.0.20010913151657.05525560@marble.sentex.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20010913113128A.jkh@freebsd.org>
References:  <200109131728.LAA01874@lariat.org> <200109131728.LAA01874@lariat.org>

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At 11:31 AM 9/13/01 -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
>People need to enumerate the list of problems they believe are still
>"show stoppers", preferably the people in charge of those subsystems
>so that I also know it's hard evidence being cited and not simply "I
>read something on the -stable list and it alarmed me."

The expire bug in ftpd and sshd.  i.e. they let expired users login despite 
being set to be expired.  To me thats a nasty security hole, but I guess 
not a show stopper from the decision makers that be.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28311

         ---Mike



>I'm all for releasing a rock-solid product too or 4.4-RELEASE would
>already be up for FTP access, but I can't delay it based on rumor and
>supposition, I need solid evidence that something is a show-stopper
>and I need some sort of ETA for a fix since otherwise we're just
>holding the release up indefinitely with no end in sight.  Thanks.
>
>- Jordan
>
> > Just reviewed the -STABLE mailing list, and it sounds as if there are still
> > too many problems to make me confident about installing the release if 
> it is
> > rushed. This isn't a commercial product.... PLEASE do not ship it 
> before it's
> > rock solid. Otherwise, we will wait until 4.5 for systems that need 
> FreeBSD's
> > unique features and install OpenBSD or NetBSD on some of the others.
> >
> > --Brett Glass
> >
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