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Date:      Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:24:06 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Linh Pham <lplist@q.closedsrc.org>
To:        Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
Cc:        Tim Ryder <jawse@yahoo.com>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: The joys of Windows
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007181014120.11050-100000@q.closedsrc.org>
In-Reply-To: <20000718224237.E19428@physics.iisc.ernet.in>

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Windows 9x is a facelift to a 16-bit Windows 3.1 which is a facade to DOS
:)

// Linh Pham
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:

> Tim Ryder said on Jul 18, 2000 at 09:56:00:
> > I dont see why everyone here hates windows.  
> 
> I have no idea about Windows NT, but I'd hesitate to call Windows 9x
> an operating system at all.   
> 
> > linux/bsd/windows user at home and windows user at
> > work.  When I am home i use linux because it is
> > interesting, not because it is better, because it
> > really isnt better.  When I go to work I use window
> > because its time to get some real work done.
> >   
> > All this talk about bsd and linux being better than
> > windows is bullshit.  I have windows 2000 and when I
> > do anything on FreeBSD or Linux, it is always slower
> > then when I do it on windows and now with win 2000
> > out, windows even has better memory management.
> 
> If you're saying windows "felt" faster even before w2000 came out,
> well that may be your experience: I can't agree.  Moreover, I've
> amazed many people by showing them how fast their old Pentium 200 with
> 32 MB RAM really is, simply by running linux on it rather than
> windows.  This is despite X being a known resource hog.  Windows 2000,
> from all accounts, will barely run at all on such a machine.  On a
> newer machine, linux and freebsd are both so blindingly fast that
> "gut feeling" comparisons are just meaningless.
> 
> Memory management -- I don't know: I only know from experience that
> opening three bulky applications at the same time is a near-guaranteed
> way of crashing windows, while 5-6 different users doing heavy-duty
> things at the same time on a fairly low end freebsd or linux machine
> will barely notice one anothers' presence.  If you really stress it
> out, freebsd seems better than linux, but windows isn't even on the
> radar.
> 
> > I like linux and freebsd, but I also know that right
> > now for the desktop and home use, windows 2000 is by
> > far the better option.
> 
> Depends on what the application needs are.  And that has nothing to do
> with memory management or other technical issues.  If the needs are
> simple internet surfing, basic word processing, etc, linux and freebsd
> are fine options and miles better than windows (provided they're
> pre-installed and pre-configured, as windows usually is) and I've
> successfully convinced a few people of that.
> 
> R.
> 
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