Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 23:03:22 -0600 From: Warner Losh <imp@village.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> Cc: Tony Kimball <alk@Think.COM>, terry@lambert.org, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lesstif (motif compatible) package. Message-ID: <199604120503.XAA04218@rover.village.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:52:10 PDT
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: A good builder, of which OI's ObjectBuilder : was one of the finest examples I've seen, lets you do far more than : simply assign the positions of things. thank you. : I'm still waiting for a good one. Xf was gross, and obviously written : by someone unclear on the concept of how he was supposed to be making : the programmer's job easier, not harder. I've heard that SpecTCL is : nicer, but I haven't gotten around to building a version of wish4.1 : with the blt_table compiled in yet, so I haven't tested it. XF totally sucked. I can say that because I've written a good builder. SpecTCL is the closest thing I've seen to something for free that has almost as good an interface as OB. It still gets menus wrong by making them a special case. They should be just drag cells, or representations of cells onto the menu to grow it. Pull rights should be had by dropping a menu on a cell. Popup dialog boxes likewise. Everyone else seems to make these things hard because the silly toolkit they are using makes them hard :-(. OI made a lot of things easy, and a few hard. Even the hard ones needed to be papered over to make OB usable. Ok, enough soap boxing.... Warner
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