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Date:      Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:36:39 +0100
From:      "Koster, K.J." <K.J.Koster@kpn.com>
To:        'Bill Huey' <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
Cc:        freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG, 'Greg Lewis' <glewis@eyesbeyond.com>
Subject:   RE: Hello from BSDi's BSD/OS division ;)
Message-ID:  <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7C5C@l04.research.kpn.com>

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Dear Bill,

> 
> So I don't believe
> that the inaction of not supporting FreeBSD's JVM effort was 
> a political
> decision as much as a function stemming from the lack of time.
>
I would like to rephrase a certain well-know quote for this occasion: Never
attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by lack of time.

>
> Most of us are fairly insanely busy on the commercial side of things.
>
I envy you in the sense that you are insanely busy with something that I
wish I had time for as a hobby. (if that makes any sense)

> 
> The 1.3.1 release of Sun's JVM could change this since I'm trying to
> make an effort in getting folks on board on my own. It makes sense
> in the same way that openpackages.org makes sense for all BSDs.
>
I think the person you want to talk to is Greg Lewis (CC'd), who is also
fairly insanely busy. He's the main man on the technical side.

Openpackages would be an excellent platform to distribute your JDK ports,
especially since the Darwin folks are also active over there. Apple must
have its own resources committed to porting JDK 1.3. I know it is a terribly
naive thing to say, but perhaps Apple is willing to work along with BSDi.
After all the JDK port is not core business to either BSDi or Apple.

I imagine that if BSDi, Apple, and the free BSD's would share their patches
in the OpenPackages CVS repository you could reduce duplication of efforts.


Hey, I can dream, can't I?

>
> Whether it's practical or not is unknown.
>
It'll to look practical in retrospect. If nothing else, it will make pretty
PR candy.

    Kees Jan

PS. "Fairly insanely"? Is that something like "slightly pregnant" or
"slightly dead"?

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