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Date:      Sun, 22 Dec 1996 11:52:41 -0500
From:      dennis <dennis@etinc.com>
To:        isp@freebsd.com
Subject:   Re: UUNET vs Netcom 
Message-ID:  <3.0.32.19961222115237.0068f068@etinc.com>

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At 07:38 PM 12/21/96 -0800, you wrote:
>>> > We left UUNET for sprint.  UUNET had much better customer service, but
>>> > with sprint we rarily need any customer service whereas with UUNET we
did
>>> > (they dropped alot etc)
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, Sprint seems to have a lot of routing problems...
>>
>>I dont agree.  Sprint is often blamed for routing problems, but most
>>problems, when tracerouted etc were at MAE points.  And places like
>>ftp.cdrom.com no long route thru them etc.
>
>   The routing issues with Sprint seem to have improved a little, but it
>wasn't but just a few months ago that the Sprint network flapped so badly
>that it was usuable. I think these problems have mostly been isolated and
>dealt with (there was a flakey router in Dallas/FW that was lots of trouble,
>plus various IOS problems in DC and Stockton). I was very happy when my
>ISP here changed to default to MCI rather than Sprint...especially since
>MCI had just done some major upgrades that helped things a bunch.
>   CRL peers with Sprint at the PB-NAP to avoid congestion that Sprint has
>at MAE-west (and probably for other reasons, such as load balancing their
>own circuits). Last time I looked, MCI peered with Sprint on the west coast
>through a dedicated circuit.

Aside from this discussion, Netcom (which the orginal question was about) has 
many points that are severe bottlenecks (like servicing many T1 and 56k
customers
with a single T1 backbone link)....so you really have to do some reseach on
your
"distance" from the net with them. They have a tendency to grossly oversell
bandwidth which obscures the value of the service you receive.

Dennis



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