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Date:      Sat, 6 Dec 1997 22:10:51 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        shawn@cpl.net (Shawn Ramsey)
Cc:        chuckr@glue.umd.edu, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 3.0 -release ?
Message-ID:  <199712062210.PAA09913@usr02.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <3488E112.4BD862AF@cpl.net> from "Shawn Ramsey" at Dec 5, 97 09:22:26 pm

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> > > hmmmm...  skip BSDI.  they want to charge absurd amounts, so make them
> > > pay for their own ports..
> > 
> > Isn't that kind of narrow-minded?  Exactly the kind most people accuse
> > many commercial companies of.  FreeBSD is free, to all comers.  Do you
> > remember where doscmd came from?
> 
> Why should the FreeBSD people make the port collection work with other
> OS's?

To get their tools to be cross-platform, and therefore be able
to leverage work on other platforms which use the tools.

The ports collection is an incredible club which can be wielded to
force adoption of (relatively) platform independent tools.

Consider if commercial binaries for BSDI were suddenly being
distributed in a format understood by a FreeBSD install program...


> If thats not what some people were suggesting, forget this post.
> :) I see no problem with making them available for other OS's to use,
> but that is already the case isnt it? 

There is not sufficient coordination between the various BSD's to
ensure that something distributed via installer may be installed
on FreeBSD.  That's what FreeBSD gets out of it.

This is not to say that the other camps will not need to cooperate.
But I can't see why they wouldn't, since it means they get the ports
collection for (pretty much) free.

It's win-win.

It also means that other people can add ports -- which offloads the
work to non-FreeBSD people for some ports.

Again, it's win-win.


> I would tend to agree with the statement about BSDI, whether doscmd came
> from them or anywhere else...Its a great OS, but not so great company
> behind it.

It is in the best interests of BSD's (and Linux -- do not forget the
FPU emulation code and the Adaptec SCSI sequencer code) to cooperate
with each other in the face of Microsoft not cooperating with anyone.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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