Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 02:01:28 +1030 From: Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> Cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), wghhicks@ix.netcom.com, mini@d198-232.uoregon.edu, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: x86 gods; advice? Suggestions? Message-ID: <199711091531.CAA00402@word.smith.net.au> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 09 Nov 1997 10:32:24 -0000." <199711091032.DAA24687@usr06.primenet.com>
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> > > And it doesn't lock you into x86 to run the BIOS on video cards... > > > where's the fun in that? > > > > I don't give a shit what it doesn't do, Terry. > > Boy, no sense of humor. What it *does* do, then is make cards not > depend on particular processors. Sorry; I didn't want you hijacking the thread. But I guess it's too late now. 8) (redirected to -chat) It only makes cards independent if they have Fcode BIOS support. How many video cards have Fcode BIOS support out-of-the-box? Yes, they *could*, but they *don't*. > > What *I* care about is that OpenBoot is big, it is expensive and > > proprietary, > > That last arrow struck home (the others missed, though, if expensive > is meant in terms of overhead instead of as a subset of proprietary, > which would make your statement redundant. No, expensive is "Ask FirmWorks what it would cost to license their implementation". Unless you feel like trying to code such a monstrosity from the specification alone. > > and it is a complete crock from the POV of usability. > > Again, you only need to use it once. The code for the OS is similar > to what I've been pushing in terms of VM86 fallback drivers. You > don't use it except for the boot, so usability isn't an issue. "Only use it once" multiplied by *how* many new users? mike
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