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Date:      Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:35:23 -0700
From:      Jim Shankland <jas@flyingfox.COM>
To:        CPELTIER@iectech.com, jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com
Cc:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: pppd reliability
Message-ID:  <199610162235.PAA02673@saguaro.flyingfox.com>

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> Does anybody have any experience using pppd to run 
> dedicated 115K ppp links (ISDN application) on
> 2.1.0 release. My main concern is reliability and
> CPU loading experiences. I am considering 16550
> UART based boards and the Cyclades products.
> The router platform is  Pentium 100-133Mhz. It may
> coexist with T1 frame links. I have solid T1 frame reliability
> without system crashes. Would I jepordize this situation
> by adding serial based ppp links? I am thinking about 
> using the Motorola Bitsurfer Pro with multilink PPP in
> a host mode (if possible) to combine the two B channels
> into a 115Kbit single, spoofed ppp stream. Anybody else
> trying this? I know that the USR I modems don't support
> Multilink PPP in host mode (at least not yet). Any other
> good ISDN adapters with Multilink PPP spoofing and host
> mode support?

I'd think twice about this, personally, and look hard at using
Ascend routers (or something similar) for ISDN.  I'm not convinced
the BitSurfr Pro, for one, is up to snuff for server-side use.
Ours periodically took itself out of service, and had to be
power-cycled.  Also consider that at 115.2 Kbps async, you're
doing 11520 BYTES/second, since an async byte is 10 bits, counting
the start and stop bits.  That means you're doing 92080 bps synchronous,
so when you're multilinking, you're really getting only about 1.5
B-channels.  And serial ports just tend to be higher maintenance
than a router on your Ethernet, in lots of little ways (I've had
several just "lose" the carrier-state-change interrupt, for example.)

Granted, hanging 4 BSPros off a multiport card in a box running
FreeBSD is cheaper than buying a 4-BRI router.  Based on my experience,
I predict you'll quickly recoup that cost in time saved tinkering
with the setup, and dealing with a steady trickle of annoying little
failures.

Jim Shankland
Flying Fox Computer Systems, Inc.

(P.S.:  What the world really needs is a cheap, ISA-bus BRI card
with well-documented programming information, and an interface more
like an Ethernet card than a serial card.  A PCI-based 4-BRI card
would be nice, too :-).)



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