Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:10:02 -0800 From: Andy Sparrow <andy@geek4food.org> To: "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@kdm.org> Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai@bart.nl>, "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca> Subject: Re: status of 'device awe' ? Message-ID: <20000222161002.A83593@mega.geek4food.org> In-Reply-To: <20000222154604.A22803@panzer.kdm.org>; from ken@kdm.org on Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 03:46:04PM -0700 References: <20000222132327.O5555@lucifer.bart.nl> <XFMail.000223084942.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20000222233325.A14094@lucifer.bart.nl> <20000222154604.A22803@panzer.kdm.org>
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On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 03:46:04PM -0700, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 23:33:26 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > > -On [20000222 23:25], Daniel O'Connor (doconnor@gsoft.com.au) wrote: > > > > > >On 22-Feb-00 Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > > >> Should be used instead. > > >> I am so in favor of just declaring voxware dead... But the armchair > > >> generals wouldn't like that. > > > > > >The awe device controls the AWE's wavetable.. newpcm doesn't talk to this > > >(yet - no idea if there are any plans) > > > > newmidi is underway... > > > > That's why I wanted to kill voxware in 4.0, would allow pcm to be used > > from default... Now we're stuck to the voxware crap for another release > > cycle until 5.0 hits the public. > > Voxware may be "crap", but newpcm doesn't work right for my GUS PnP. (And > yep, I sent mail to the multimedia list, which got some response, and I > sent mail to Cameron, which got no response.) > > Voxware used to work fine, way back when. Luigi's pcm code worked fine as > well with my GUS PnP. Maybe it's time for me to switch back to voxware > from newpcm. I'm tired of getting static every once in a while when > playing sound files. > > I don't see any reason to get rid of voxware before newpcm is fully > functional. Unfortunately for those of us who used to use 'pnp' commands in userconfig to probe/init the AWE registers, the AWE wavetable is already useless in -current. AFAIK, the AWE cannot work without this, and the cards PnPinfo seems to not include the other two registers - and if you don't probe them, then the 'awe' driver check doesn't see the EMU8000... Is there even a single person out there able to use the AWE device under Voxware in -current? My understanding is that this is no longer possible, following the removal of the 'pnp' interface in userconfig.. So, people with the AWE32, AWE daughter card or the AWE64 might as well have an original SoundBlaster 16, for all the good the EMU8000 wavetable/synth chip does them. If that is really so, then I would suggest that either: a) the 'awe' driver is now just so much cruft and should be removed. or b) FreeBSD has lost significant functionality (namely, AWE wavetable support) with the removal of the older 'pnp' interface, and this should be put back. I guess that your perspective on this really depends on whether you actually have the hardware and want to use it... For me, with an integrated Vibra 16 on the mobo, Voxware is now unusable for sound as the SoundBlaster portion is not recognised. (Again, only in -current, it all works perfectly in -stable). I /have/ to use pcm in -current, simply to play CDs (which, incidentally, works well for me)... Of course, for the time being, I have the option of using this hardware under -stable, but eventually the changes will filter through to there as well. Of more importance (to me, right now), is that -stable is not getting the benefit of the other improvements that are going on in -current. (e.g. Linux threads, SMP, NFS etc.) Cheers, AS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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