Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:33:51 +1000 From: David Nugent <davidn@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> To: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xquake + sound?? Message-ID: <199708120833.SAA01299@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 10 Aug 1997 21:33:52 MST." <199708110433.VAA11351@rah.star-gate.com>
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> > and working under FreeBSD? Yeah, I realise the library is a real mess in > > many respects, but it is pretty much a standard for console-based games > > for i386 UNIX and clones. Having conversed with him a couple of times, > > I'm reasonably sure that Dive Kirsch could be convinced to compile a > > FreeBSD native version of squake, or even running the Linux version would > > be cool too. :) I gather we need a few hooks in syscons. > > Don't care to support svgalib and it does not require a lot of work > to port . I have done it in the past a couple of times and flat out > refused to release the code. Hmm? Then why bother to do the port? :-) Just curious. In any case, I'm encouraged to have a look at it. If the mods required to syscon are minor then I'll even have a go at convincing Soren to put 'em in. :) It can't hurt, and if the cost is small - why not? It's another reason to run FreeBSD. > Since xf86quake has full access to the frame buffer I don't see much > of a need for svgalib. You see svgalib is mostly used to access > the frame buffer. Well, sure, but without any X overhead and memory use. Not everyone has a Pentium 120 or better with gobs of RAM. > And I hope that you are enjoying xquake + sound as much as I am > over here. Actually, I suspect that my last statement accounts for some lack of response. I'll put it this way - under Linux I run squake with ctbots - it requires a *lot* of CPU to run the bots. Even a dedicated server requires a 686 or Pentium at 150mhz or greater to run at a decent speed without "chopping". On this machine, squake under Linux works great - and handles up to 8 bots/team. This is *not* like playing normal quake, where the demands are significantly less, although nightmore difficulty level is starting to get there. Now, with xquake and even xf86quake, the X overhead is quite noticeable. The server runs more slowly - pretty much unusable for network play and almost unusable for even single play with this many bots (and it is less challenging with lesser numbers, trust me ;-)). Now, take the machine down a peg or two and the difference between running under X, even with the mapped frame buffer, and an svgalib based version will be even greater. Regards, Davidhome | help
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