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Date:      Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:59:34 -0600
From:      "Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu" <campbell@neotext.ca>
To:        "Matthew Grooms" <mgrooms@seton.org>, <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: esp tunnel without gif(4) [Was Re: vpn1/fw1 NG toipsec/racoontroubles, help please ...]
Message-ID:  <20020802225934.M20274@babayaga.neotext.ca>
In-Reply-To: <sd4ab7c6.030@aus-gwia.aus.dcnhs.org>
References:  <sd4ab7c6.030@aus-gwia.aus.dcnhs.org>

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I made the same mistake.  Well, hard to call it a mistake, since 
it worked, but it did make things more complicated.

Duncan Patton a Campbell is Duibh ;-)

---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Matthew Grooms" <mgrooms@seton.org>
To: <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:47:57 -0500
Subject: Re: esp tunnel without gif(4) [Was Re: vpn1/fw1 NG
toipsec/racoontroubles, help please ...]

> Hey there,
> 
> >But why? Is there something this configuration buys >you that
you don't
> >get when all are "vanilla" ESP tunnels?
> 
>      I understand this is not neccesary. The first 
> time I set up ipsec on freebsd I thought it was 
> mandatory out of ignorance. After all there are quite 
> a few how-to's that refect this sort of configuration ...
> 
> http://www.x-itec.de/projects/tuts/ipsec-howto.txt
> http://www.daemonnews.org/200101/ipsec-howto.html
> 
> This one makes an attempt at explaining why it is 
> beneficial. Im not too sure if it is an entirely 
> compeling argument.
> 
> http://asherah.dyndns.org/~josh/ipsec-howto.txt
> 
> In any case, I was attempting to help out by answering 
> a peers question to the best of my ability. I was not 
> endorsing one method or another. Note that both were 
> illustrated in the example I posted.
> 
> >> spdadd 10.22.200.0/24 10.1.2.0/24 any -P out ipsec
> >> esp/tunnel/10.22.200.1-10.1.2.1/require;
> >> spdadd 10.1.2.0/24 10.22.200.0/24 any -P in  ipsec
> >> esp/tunnel/10.1.2.1-10.22.200.1/require;
> 
> >You seem to be doing this backwards from the usual >way (or
what I
> >think of as the usual way)... and I really do not >understand
why. You
> >are taking traffic from,
> >...
> 
> Its only backwards if you are used to implimenting 
> IPSEC communications in a non-giff'd confguration. As 
> mentioned before, this is endorsed by many how-to's 
> available. If you don't like this method, don't use 
> it. I for one prefer the giffed alternative but will 
> be more than happy to admit that the benifits appear 
> to be mostly cosmetic.
> 
> -Matthew
> 
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