Date: 20 Apr 2003 17:48:02 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@FreeBSD.org> To: Adam Weinberger <adamw@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: use_gnomeng Message-ID: <1050875281.9550.40.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> In-Reply-To: <20030420213028.GA25227@vectors.cx> References: <20030420002953.55575.qmail@web13503.mail.yahoo.com> <1050799770.13770.51.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20030420212022.GZ25227@vectors.cx> <1050873746.9550.23.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20030420213028.GA25227@vectors.cx>
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On Sun, 2003-04-20 at 17:30, Adam Weinberger wrote:
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> >> (04.20.2003 @ 1422 PST): Joe Marcus Clarke said, in 2.1K: <<
> > > USE_{GTK,ESOUND,IMLIB} are still defined in bsd.gnome.mk.
> >=20
> > Still defined now for backwards compatibility. However, this won't
> > always be the case.
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> USE_ESOUND and USE_IMLIB should be taken out of bsd.gnome.mk and should
> be excised from the ports tree stat, IMO.
I'm with you. The only reason they're still in there is that some ports
are using them. I managed to convert out GNOMELIBS, GLIB, and
GNOMECTRL. Then I got lazy.
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> > > That being said, I do agree that USE_GTK and USE_GTK2 macros will mak=
e
> > > the learning curve a bit less steep.
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> > Now, sure...but as new releases come out, should we add USE_GTK3,
> > USE_GTK4...? I think it scales better to have the one system that
> > accepts a list of components rather than defining new macros everytime =
a
> > new API release comes out.
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> Your point is well taken, except that the GTK libraries are ubiquitous
> compared to any other GNOME components. I think that the relative
> complexity of the USE_GNOME system as compared to "USE_GTK2=3Dyes" is
> warranted for all other GNOME components, but I wonder if the
> extra-macros-to-support tradeoff is worth it for the relative ease of
> porting apps that simply utilize the toolkit.
I concur with your answer below, and I would add that FreeBSD porters
are smart people. Is it really too complex or too time consuming to do
USE_GNOME=3Dgtk[12|20]? I thought we did a good job with the docs. =20
Also, adding the macros back in could cause some conflicts if both the
compat macros and USE_GNOME were used. =20
Joe
>=20
> On the other hand, "USE_GNOME=3D gtk20" isn't all that difficult. I think
> it may be worth it to add a paragraph towards the top of the docs I'm
> hacking to spell out "If you want gtk2 libs, do this."
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> # Adam
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Joe Marcus Clarke
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http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome
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