Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:22:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Karl Denninger, MCSNet" <karl@mcs.com> To: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDI 2.0 vs. FreeBSD 2.x Message-ID: <m0uVh3y-000IDOC@venus.mcs.com> In-Reply-To: <199606171544.LAA01283@etinc.com> from "Dennis" at Jun 17, 96 11:44:09 am
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> >Cerebus up 2+19:40, 0 users, load 0.01, 0.43, 0.42 > >Mailbox up 5+08:00, 0 users, load 0.52, 0.51, 0.44 > >Mars up 15+18:43, 18 users, load 0.59, 0.54, 0.45 > >Mercury up 25+04:45, 22 users, load 0.27, 0.29, 0.31 > >Nfs1 up 154+14:05, 0 users, load 0.51, 0.46, 0.33 > >Nfs2 up 56+12:01, 0 users, load 0.50, 1.17, 1.31 > >Uucp1 up 75+01:24, 0 users, load 0.05, 0.05, 0.00 > >Venus up 56+11:38, 17 users, load 0.10, 0.14, 0.16 > >Vs-1 up 59+05:27, 0 users, load 1.19, 1.30, 1.27 > >Vs-2 up 16+04:38, 0 users, load 0.07, 0.29, 0.35 > >Vs-3 up 16+04:45, 0 users, load 1.94, 1.35, 1.18 > > > >These are BSDI machines. > > > >Cthulu up 22+06:28, 0 users, load 0.28, 0.11, 0.05 > >Jupiter up 33+23:37, 0 users, load 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > >News1 up 18+02:29, 0 users, load 0.48, 0.32, 0.29 > >Nntp1 up 2+11:46, 0 users, load 0.21, 0.10, 0.03 > >Vs-4 up 77+09:29, 0 users, load 0.12, 0.08, 0.02 > > > >These are FreeBSD machines. > > > >VS-4, in particular, is extremely impressive. That system has over 100 > >virtual web servers on it, and has shown not a SINGLE problem since it was > >loaded. > > > >I'd use BSDI for NFS file service as of today (they still do that a little > >better) but for the other purposes, its a dead heat and I'd say that FreeBSD > >has to get a VERY close look. > > Say what you mean, Karl. BSDI has priced themselves out of the game. Their > support is no better than what you get for nothing from the FreeBSD people. > They do a few things better and a few things not as well. Anyone who knows > about freebsd and buys BSD/OS is nuts. > > Dennis That's what I did say. BSDI has priced themselves out of the game, and their support, of late at least, has IMHO stunk. I was one of their original evangalizers many years ago when they first got going. The primary reason wasn't the code; their code is ok, but nothing spectacular. The primary reason was support. Recently, in the past few months, that has evaporated. There have also been price increases which make BSDI non-viable in many environments. The sole area where they hold a stability advantage, IMHO, is in the area of NFS file service. But certainly, if you have 10 licenses, you could use those for your NFS file servers and run the rest of your plant on FreeBSD. That is basically the strategy we are taking here. Within another few months the only places you're likely to see BSDI is in the NFS file service arena -- unless FreeBSD gets those problems resolved first, in which case we'll have a gecko-killing contest. If I'm not going to get support, I'm sure as hell not going to pay for it! At least with FreeBSD I know what the score is and what I'm expected to provide for myself. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | T1 from $600 monthly; speeds to DS-3 available Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1] | 23 Chicagoland Prefixes, 13 ISDN, much more Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ ISDN - Get it here TODAY! | Home of Chicago's only FULL Clarinet feed!
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