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Date:      Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:46:24 +0100
From:      Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
To:        Divacky Roman <xdivac02@stud.fit.vutbr.cz>
Cc:        emulation@freebsd.org, kib@freebsd.org, rdivacky@freebsd.org, jkim@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 2.6.16 for linuxulator & 7.0 release
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Quoting Divacky Roman <xdivac02@stud.fit.vutbr.cz> (from Mon, 19 Mar =20
2007 19:35:44 +0100):

> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:06:18PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>> Quoting Divacky Roman <xdivac02@stud.fit.vutbr.cz> (from Mon, 19 Mar
>> 2007 17:49:07 +0100):
>>
>> >On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:48:12PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote:
>> >>In the last episode (Mar 16), Alexander Leidinger said:
>> >>> Quoting Divacky Roman <xdivac02@stud.fit.vutbr.cz> (from Fri, 16 Mar
>> >>> 2007 13:26:58 +0100):
>> >>>
>> >>> >as java is regarded I think its not a big problem to patch java
>> >>> >shell script to set emulation to 2.4 etc. but I agree that 2.6 is
>> >>> >not ready for 7.0R
>> >>>
>> >>> This would require to run every java programs as root. Very impractic=
al.
>> >>
>> >>Wouldn't setting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=3D2.4.20 (or any 2.4.x release)
>> >>suffice?
>> >
>> >no... we act differenly in the kernel depending on how
>> >compat.linux.osrelease
>> >is set... setting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL wont change a thing and it WILL
>> >SCREW THINGS
>> >
>> >dont do this
>>
>> Even when we set it to .20 as he suggested instead to .2 as I
>> suggested? With .20 we get the NPTL stuff and maybe not the epoll
>> stuff in the jdk.
>
> I was talking about setting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL.. this DOES NOT work in =20
>  our current
> linuxulator and will BREAK things.
>
> the linux_use26() function works on the sysctl  =20
> compat.linux.osrelease and doesnt care
> about LD_ASSUME_KERNEL so kernel things its running 2.6 and userland =20
>  thinks its running
> 2.4 -> things must break.

It depends on what is used. 2.6 in the kernel changes how some stuff =20
is handled. If LD_...=3D2.4.20 expect that the kernel behaves in those =20
areas like 2.6.16 and at the same times disallows the use of epoll() =20
and other stuff we don't want to be used, this would be an option. But =20
this depends upon how java determines how to use epoll() and upon the =20
expectations of glibc with LD_...=3D2.4.20. I didn't verified this but =20
it is easy to verify.

A thought which just crossed my mind is: is an user able to panic the =20
kernel when 2.6.16 is in effect in the kernel and LD_... is set to =20
2.4.x and vice versa?

Bye,
Alexander.

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