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Date:      Mon, 30 Sep 2002 16:08:26 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Ralph Forsythe <rf-list@centerone.com>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Multihoming alternatives
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209301558590.29876-100000@blue.centerone.com>
In-Reply-To: <6430B9FF-D4A7-11D6-A6AC-000A27D85A7E@mac.com>

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Chuck Swiger wrote:

> [ ... ]
> > Assuming that you already have a T1 from one provider, get a second T1
> > from another provider, then get a full /24 from one of them, which any
> > Tier-1 provider will do without question when you mention that you
> > intend to run BGP-4 with 2 separate providers.
>
> Yes, although a /24 isn't guaranteed to be globally routable.

Yes, quite the opposite, it's all but guaranteed to NOT be globally
routable.  AFAIK there is a big push for route consolidation, and many
larger route points will not even pass a route entry for something that
small.  If you could find two providers that can peer through the same
upstream and pass that I think it would work though, right?  (Assuming
they have other peer points, otherwise it'd just be a single point of
failure further down the line.)

> > There's been a number of discussions on this topic before, and I believe
> > that the general concensus is that using a DNS round-robin is not even
> > close to an ideal redundancy solution and should be avoided at all cost.
>
> Paul was asking about methods which did not involve BGP.  DNS round-robin
> is free, so I'd say "it should be avoided if you're willing to pay for
> something better".

DNS round-robin isn't a great redundancy scenario (i.e. if DNS stays up
but has no idea that one of it's hosts out of two are down, only 50% of
requests go to the good server), but it does provide for a poor-man's load
balancing solution.  I also saw a script once somewhere that would monitor
servers (probably just a ping) and auto-update the round robin in the
event of a failure.

Of course the best way to go is a true load balancer, so some poor user's
PC isn't caching a downed IP even though DNS is reporting something else.
But therein lies the cost issue again.  Got to pay to play, ultimately.
True balanced redundancy is not cheap, when done right.

- Ralph


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