Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:39:47 -0800 From: vehemens <vehemens@verizon.net> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" <conrads@cox.net>, cpghost <cpghost@cordula.ws>, Robert Atkinson <phreaki@gmail.com>, Robert Noland <rnoland@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: i give up Message-ID: <200812032139.47862.vehemens@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <1228365988.1945.15.camel@wombat.2hip.net> References: <20081128234155.0221e263@serene.no-ip.org> <6fb2b4650812031953y14ddfeb4ycb4f5ae2bddffd49@mail.gmail.com> <1228365988.1945.15.camel@wombat.2hip.net>
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On Wednesday 03 December 2008 08:46:28 pm Robert Noland wrote: > On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 22:53 -0500, Robert Atkinson wrote: > > I second this idea since with my nearly a decade of FreeBSD > > administration under the belt, it is a waste of my time to throw it > > away. It is much cheaper for me to swap a card or even task a > > different machine for hardware that just isn't meant to be in FBSD. > > > > I'll use the penguin where I have too, I am forced to use it due to > > the VPS solution I chose. The price was right and it does what I wish > > it to do, but I would never, ever give up on the box under my desk and > > turn my back on this otherwise outstanding operating system. > > > > I have however, had many users who I show Linux give up because > > everything they own in the house is not supported. They always say > > "isn't linux supposed to be great?" and I can only say that they > > should learn to write device drivers and only buy hardware that has > > well known support. > > Folks, I hate to contribute to this bikeshed, but developers are few, > hardware specs are scarce and developers have to put what resources they > have to work where it does the most good. I personally think that we do > a fantastic job, given the resources available, but we can't support > every random piece of hardware. > > For the original poster, I hope that you will reconsider your options > and send specific details to a wider audience than Soren. If Soren is > busy with life, perhaps someone else has the bandwidth to help with your > issue. I generally find our developer community is quite willing to > help sort out issues, often at the expense of having a life. > > All of that said, when given an option I also try to acquire hardware > from vendors that provide open documentation as attempting to reverse > engineer, or crib from linux code is the suck... Vendors that do > provide open documentation are usually well supported. If the device interface was more common between the BSDs and Linux, then the work would be minimal. As long as people create/insist on incompatible interfaces, then the work will always be time-consuming and difficult.
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