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Date:      Sun, 31 Dec 2017 08:01:41 +0200
From:      Stanislav Galabov <sgalabov@gmail.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" <freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org>,  "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" <freebsd-mips@freebsd.org>, Aleksandr Rybalko <ray@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning
Message-ID:  <CANiSyhRswhZAViHVO8CD7nTA4CHP-LnfH=LwFNN807yx81T8wQ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfo=P93pdcXE4W3bRnL66uXwqXYeZkeQKmetjr5NvxjQAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <12b36190fcd6918a01d88fd4dbf1a220@megadrive.org> <201712310122.vBV1Mjds078793@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <CANCZdfo=P93pdcXE4W3bRnL66uXwqXYeZkeQKmetjr5NvxjQAQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <
> freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
>
>> > On 2017-12-31 01:46, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
>> > >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <
>> > >> freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > > Can you give me pointers to these boards for adm5120 and IDT?
>> When last I
>> > >> > > tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and
>> generally
>> > >> > came
>> > >> > > with no more than 32M or 64M of memory.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be
>> deleted w/o
>> > >> > loss
>> > >> > > of functionality.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Please go back and read very carefully what the person said about
>> > >> > this.  It was PLANNED to subsume rt305x into mediatek, but it has
>> > >> > NOT been done yet.  At least that is how I read the persons
>> > >> > comments.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> That's not how I read it. I read it as "this is what we planned, and
>> > >> we've
>> > >> arrived." However, out of an abundance of caution, I sent an email
>> > >> asking
>> > >> for confirmation. Code inspection certainly suggests that my
>> > >> interpretation
>> > >> is correct.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.  Also you might want to ping the router projects folks,
>> > > as I believe many of the mips based routers use this SOC and
>> > > they may have info on which of the implementations work better,
>> > > and/or if the mediatek branch is up to speed and the rt305x
>> > > can just be axed.  I know this project is out there someplace,
>> > > but can not find a link for it right now.    And I have seen
>> > > some activity someplace from them in the last 3 or 4 months.
>> >
>> >   "router project folks" ?
>> >
>> >   Who are you talking about exactly ?
>>
>> And now I found the other person that just posted updates on the
>> zrouter code, it is now a git project, and just updated stuff
>> relative to the RT305x stuff one month ago:
>> https://github.com/ZRouter/ZRouter/tree/master/socs/Ralink
>>
>> Project top is at https://github.com/ZRouter
>
>
> Looks like they'll have to update. Should be pretty easy. I'll ping.
>
> Warner
>
I am adding ray@ to the conversation so he can give his input as well.
As far as I am concerned mips/mediatek is already a superset of
mips/rt305x and should be the one that's carried forward.

Stanislav

>
>> > >> Warner
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It seems
>> to
>> > >> > > support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that has a
>> bunch of
>> > >> > > errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer chips.
>> What am
>> > >> > I
>> > >> > > missing?
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Warner
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin <mizhka@gmail.com
>> >
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > Hi Warner,
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are
>> to be
>> > >> > kept
>> > >> > > > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance,
>> Mikrotik from
>> > >> > > > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM),
>> sibyte is
>> > >> > to be
>> > >> > > > part of broadcom and also kept for a while.
>> > >> > > > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g
>> router" with
>> > >> > > > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested).
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :)
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Thank you!
>> > >> > > > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your
>> > >> > family.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following
>> > >> > before the
>> > >> > > >> FreeBSD 12 branch.
>> > >> > > >>
>> > >> > > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old)
>> > >> > > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and
>> boards lack
>> > >> > > >> memory, very old)
>> > >> > > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete)
>> > >> > > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so)
>> > >> > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware)
>> > >> > > >>
>> > >> > > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list
>> to
>> > >> > arch@.
>> > >> > > >>
>> > >> > > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep
>> these older
>> > >> > > >> ports
>> > >> > > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even
>> work on
>> > >> > these
>> > >> > > >> boards anymore.
>> > >> > > >>
>> > >> > > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no
>> longer
>> > >> > running
>> > >> > > >> on
>> > >> > > >> them, please let me know. Thanks!
>> > >> > > >>
>> > >> > > >> Warner
>> > >> > > >> _______________________________________________
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>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
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>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > Rod Grimes
>> > >> > rgrimes@freebsd.org
>> > >> >
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