Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 08:01:41 +0200 From: Stanislav Galabov <sgalabov@gmail.com> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net>, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" <freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" <freebsd-mips@freebsd.org>, Aleksandr Rybalko <ray@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning Message-ID: <CANiSyhRswhZAViHVO8CD7nTA4CHP-LnfH=LwFNN807yx81T8wQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfo=P93pdcXE4W3bRnL66uXwqXYeZkeQKmetjr5NvxjQAQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <12b36190fcd6918a01d88fd4dbf1a220@megadrive.org> <201712310122.vBV1Mjds078793@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <CANCZdfo=P93pdcXE4W3bRnL66uXwqXYeZkeQKmetjr5NvxjQAQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < > freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > >> > On 2017-12-31 01:46, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> > >> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < >> > >> freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > > Can you give me pointers to these boards for adm5120 and IDT? >> When last I >> > >> > > tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and >> generally >> > >> > came >> > >> > > with no more than 32M or 64M of memory. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be >> deleted w/o >> > >> > loss >> > >> > > of functionality. >> > >> > >> > >> > Please go back and read very carefully what the person said about >> > >> > this. It was PLANNED to subsume rt305x into mediatek, but it has >> > >> > NOT been done yet. At least that is how I read the persons >> > >> > comments. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> That's not how I read it. I read it as "this is what we planned, and >> > >> we've >> > >> arrived." However, out of an abundance of caution, I sent an email >> > >> asking >> > >> for confirmation. Code inspection certainly suggests that my >> > >> interpretation >> > >> is correct. >> > > >> > > Thanks. Also you might want to ping the router projects folks, >> > > as I believe many of the mips based routers use this SOC and >> > > they may have info on which of the implementations work better, >> > > and/or if the mediatek branch is up to speed and the rt305x >> > > can just be axed. I know this project is out there someplace, >> > > but can not find a link for it right now. And I have seen >> > > some activity someplace from them in the last 3 or 4 months. >> > >> > "router project folks" ? >> > >> > Who are you talking about exactly ? >> >> And now I found the other person that just posted updates on the >> zrouter code, it is now a git project, and just updated stuff >> relative to the RT305x stuff one month ago: >> https://github.com/ZRouter/ZRouter/tree/master/socs/Ralink >> >> Project top is at https://github.com/ZRouter > > > Looks like they'll have to update. Should be pretty easy. I'll ping. > > Warner > I am adding ray@ to the conversation so he can give his input as well. As far as I am concerned mips/mediatek is already a superset of mips/rt305x and should be the one that's carried forward. Stanislav > >> > >> Warner >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It seems >> to >> > >> > > support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that has a >> bunch of >> > >> > > errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer chips. >> What am >> > >> > I >> > >> > > missing? >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Warner >> > >> > > >> > >> > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin <mizhka@gmail.com >> > >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Hi Warner, >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are >> to be >> > >> > kept >> > >> > > > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance, >> Mikrotik from >> > >> > > > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM), >> sibyte is >> > >> > to be >> > >> > > > part of broadcom and also kept for a while. >> > >> > > > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g >> router" with >> > >> > > > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested). >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :) >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Thank you! >> > >> > > > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your >> > >> > family. >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following >> > >> > before the >> > >> > > >> FreeBSD 12 branch. >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) >> > >> > > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and >> boards lack >> > >> > > >> memory, very old) >> > >> > > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) >> > >> > > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) >> > >> > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list >> to >> > >> > arch@. >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep >> these older >> > >> > > >> ports >> > >> > > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even >> work on >> > >> > these >> > >> > > >> boards anymore. >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no >> longer >> > >> > running >> > >> > > >> on >> > >> > > >> them, please let me know. Thanks! >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> Warner >> > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> > > >> freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list >> > >> > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips >> > >> > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@ >> > >> > freebsd.org" >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list >> > >> > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips >> > >> > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@ >> freebsd.org" >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Rod Grimes >> > >> > rgrimes@freebsd.org >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list >> > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips >> > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> > >> "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> >> > >> > -- >> > Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> <manu@freebsd.org> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list >> > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> >> -- >> Rod Grimes >> rgrimes@freebsd.org >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-embedded >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-embedded-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> " >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-embedded > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-embedded-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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