Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:48:54 +0200 From: "n j" <nino80@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: I like Ubuntu] Message-ID: <92bcbda50704170548s273eb37dt1049a3063fa965b9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4624869C.7090309@dial.pipex.com> References: <4624869C.7090309@dial.pipex.com>
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> Hopefully that helps answer some of your questions. Overall, I find the > FreeBSD ports system to be more flexible, but an acceptable runner-up > for purposes of binary package-based OSes in my opinion is Debian. Just to add my .02$ to this topic, speaking from a perspective of a FreeBSD lover in a company which prefers Debian, I must say that, even though I administer a couple of FreeBSD boxes, I sometimes envy my fellow Debian admins who manage tens of Debian boxes with a really quick apt-get upgrade (or whatever the command) to fix a hole or apply a patch vs. updating the source tree and making world on FreeBSD (not to mention mergemaster which is a nightmare and the build process which lasts for hours if not days). I'm quite frightened by the effort I would have to invest to get the same effect administering a large number of FreeBSD boxes. Mind you, I'm not actually talking about the ports tree; given one of the portupgrade/portmanager/portmaster tools, I usually find my way through upgrading ports via source to be rather simple. On the other hand, on Debian there is a price for simplicity, stable still ships with really old 3rd party apps like Mysql 4.0, Apache 1.3, PHP 4.3... To conclude my rantings, I really appreciate the effort behind binary updates and freebsd-update project. Colin is doing a great job and by using portsnap and/or freebsd-update, FreeBSD is slowly overcoming the complicated upgrade process which combined with good ports tree and above mentioned portupgrading toolset and portaudit makes for an outstanding OS. Regards, -- Nino
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