Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:08:54 +1000 From: Danny <dannyh@idx.com.au> To: Siegbert Baude <Siegbert.Baude@gmx.de>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best Installation Method? Message-ID: <00061415091903.00311@desktop.freebsd.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000612172401.00a89a10@imap.rz.uni-ulm.de>
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yes you need to install lynx and pine seperatly On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Siegbert Baude wrote: > Hi, > I fiddled around with FreeBSD the last week with several attempts of new > installations. Now I decided to reinstall everything from scratch and would > like to hear some comments which is the best way to do. What I want is an > uptodate stable system. What I have are two boot floppies, a lot of disk > space, but no CD-burner and a fast internet connection ;-) > > The links on the FreeBSD-Homepage Newbies -> "Latest Mainstream release" > goes to a 3.4-Release. Isnīt 4.0 the latest stable Release or is 4.0 still > somehow experimental? > If 4.0 is what Iīm looking for, should I start with the Release or a daily > snapshot from ftp://releng4.freebsd.org ? > If snapshot, what must I write into the options in the install-menu to > install the latest snapshot per ftp? > If Release, should I only do a minimal install then pkg_add cvsupit.tgz, > with a "make world"? Or do a full install (X,developer, kernel sources, > (maybe all sources?)) ? How then to become uptodate: CVSup ? > When updating via CVSup should I then first do a "make world" and > afterwards a new kernel or the other way round? Iīm thinking about the > necessary shared libs. If I first update the libs will the old kernel and > apps still work? If I first update the kernel, will the kernel still work > if I give him new libs by "make world" ? > In general, is the ports collection also in the CVSup, or must I care for > the ports separate (if yes, how? Is there something like CVSup for ports?) ? > > If you can give me some good hint for the what to do, now some questions > for the "how to": > > Is it better to download all files on a DOS-Partition first and install it > from there? (In case something goes wrong, I donīt have to repeat the > download then). The problem is my primary DOS-partition is nearly full, and > the installation procedure wonīt give me access to DOS-partitions in > extended partition (the sub-partitions inside normally called logical > partitions). Also I didnīt manage yet to get the installation procedure use > any extended (logical) partition for FreeBSD. Isnīt FreeBSD able to handle > extended partitions? Is this only for the boot procedure? I read nearly all > the docs, but did find nothing about this! > > A short overview of which tries I already passed and what happened: > Install by FTP 4.0-Release: The system worked, some problems with kde > (still no solution but didnīt work alot on them. What is the difference > between kde and kde-i18n?) and interrupt assigning PnP-Sound card (which > now works. I had to compile usb support also in the kernel to recognize the > system the usb using irq 9. without it irq 9 was assigned to the soundcard, > which didnīt work then). The problem which made me think I did something > completely wrong and should reinstall everything were about three or four > system crashes (instantaneous reboots) both from within the console and X > and also both with generic kernel and custom one. (No I donīt have a > SMP-System. Celeron 400, ASUS P2B, Elsa Erazor II, IBM IDE-drives. My > system works absolutely stable on all may other OS: Linux-Mandrake, BeOS, > Win98 (!!!) and WinNT) > So next try from scratch I did only a minimal install of 4.0-Release by > ftp, then pkg_add cvsupit.tgz (with everything except games) option outside > USA with all encryption options. Did a custom kernel, but networking was > broken then (NS lookup failures) . Tried make world only to hang within > compiling sshd, stating a syntax error, where I canīt find one (but I only > have small C abilities. I wanted a stable uptodate system, because I donīt > want to fiddle with C-code, I nearly hate this language (prefer reading > Suaheli printed on toilet paper ;-)) ). > Booting with generic kernel brought me back my network but also failed > doing make world with the same error. > As I also had a spontaneous reboot now, I want to know how to get an > uptodate system with as little as possible from the 4.0 Release but most > things out of 4.0-stable. And I want to do it from scratch, therefore this > posting :-) > > So thatīs state of today, and I really would appreciate any comments. > If the crashes will reappear after I did what you suggest now, I will have > a closer look on them and post here to work about it. But until now I still > believe that the fault is on my side (the whole world appreciating the > stability of FreeBSD, it should work for me too, I think :-) ) > > Ciao > Siegbert > > P.S.: there seems to be no lynx in the normal 4.0 Release. (Message: > couldnīt find package lynx) I had to install it from the ports collection. > Normal? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- ------------------------------------------------------------ You are not authorized to use my email address for spam or any purpose whatsoever. Remove my email address from your databases immediately and do not attempt to email me in any way. ------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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