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Date:      Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:33:19 +0100
From:      Erik Norgaard <norgaard@locolomo.org>
To:        "admin@classicwebsales.com" <admin@classicwebsales.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: I have given in trying to install
Message-ID:  <4210624F.9020803@locolomo.org>
In-Reply-To: <420E5462.000003.96045@DAVID>
References:  <420E5462.000003.96045@DAVID>

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admin@classicwebsales.com wrote:
> 
>    I recently picked up the freebsd 1.1 from a Linux magazine I buy reg   ular , I liked it so much I decided to download the full Freebsd iso's
>    an= d install the real thing .
> 
>    24 hrs later and constant effoft ... I have given in .
> 
>    It seems that regardless of whatever angle I approach the install ..   . and I have tried every which way but lose .
> 
>    It is impossible to get the bootloader to use Gnome or KDE (xfree) .
>    I have tried every way from your website help on install and still n   o joy . OK I am not a Linux expert , I have only installed Mandrake ,
>    RH8= and RH9 Knoppik and Suse plus other operating systems over the
>    past year= since I have been inquisitive about LInux .
> 
>    Please make FreeBSD easy to install !

FreeBSD doesn't enable X by default, you will come to appreciate it. X 
does not start Gnome or KDE by default, you will come to apprecieate it. 
The reason is that if something is incorrectly configured you can get 
into an endless loop with X restarting, and a reinstall being the only 
(almost) option.

First, it is not the boot loader that is responsible for starting X or 
Gnome/KDE. The bootloader .. well boots :-)

To do: The installation menu will allow you to install and configure X 
and choose among the most popular window managers including Gnome and KDE.

If you have done that, reboot the machine and login. You have a console 
- don't panic! :-) Run the command "startx", this will start up X with 
the chosen window manager.

If you are satisfied, then go on to make it start automatically. Edit 
/etc/ttys - change the line

   ttyv8   "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon"  xterm   off secure

to

   ttyv8   "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon"  xterm   on secure

and reboot. This last step is always required after install in order to 
start X automatically on boot. I won't recommend it untill you have the 
configuration correct for the reason given above.

Cheers, Erik

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