Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 00:31:18 +0200 (EET) From: Taavi Talvik <taavi@uninet.ee> To: Ken Smith <kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU> Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105080018460.90742-100000@valu.uninet.ee> In-Reply-To: <200105072208.SAA16585@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU>
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On Mon, 7 May 2001, Ken Smith wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 7 17:51:53 2001 > > To: "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG> > > Subject: Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master > > > > I simply think it's inconvenient for mirror operators to host bits that > > are not obtained even one-tenth of 1% of the time as the newest > > releases/packages. Not everyone has 50GB of disk space to dedicate > > to FreeBSD, and I don't see a reason to expect that. :) > > > > There is another advantage as well. Even if I've got 50Gb of disk > space to contribute to the cause I can set up mirroring of the primary > tree every night and the [painful] archive section weekly if there is > a clean separation between the two. It is not only a disk space issue. It is more management issue. Considering current tools for keeping up to date ftp mirrors, keeping up with changes on current "ftp-master" is almost impossible. If I don't have infinite bandwidth and can't put infinite load on master sites, I have to mirror some usefull subset most users. > IMO deciding the purpose of the FTP site before deciding what goes in > it seems wise. I'd propose there actually be two purposes. Primary > purpose is supporting people interested in the current stuff, > secondary purpose is archival. Perhaps as a starting point: > > - supports FTP-based install procedure for two (frozen) releases > - ports installation for same > - support for -stable and -current > - easy access to some set of current source files, perhaps as > "single tarballs" analogous to snapshots (don't break up the > tar files to make them easier to understand for novice) > - support tools If there is clean separation between usefull subset (providing installation, packages) as in above. The rest can be mirrored with other tools - current sources with cvsup, some pieces not mirrored (daily snapshots, distfiles, local-distfiles) or mirrored with different schedule. Honestly, there is no interest for daily Alpha snapshots in Estonia, we have maybe total 50 alpha machines at all:) best regards, taavi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message
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