Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 18:55:14 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot <ml@my.gd> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Request for comments - svnup in base ? Message-ID: <CAE63ME6%2BVu3X7K%2B3OSv1JgYTAUHEHfhqLi=DpGs_pFzVF6Vcqg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20150118223345.b2014c1b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <mailman.61.1421582401.23573.freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> <20150119024349.T82172@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20150118223345.b2014c1b.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On 18 January 2015 at 22:33, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:45:56 +1100 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 554, Issue 7, Message: 3 > > On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 02:09:06 +0100 Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > > > On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 16:24:12 +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > > On a related topic, how would you guys feel about svnup being part > of BASE ? > > > > > > > > Or perhaps, include a bootstrap install much like pkg has. > > > > > > > > I for one, would very much like it. > > > > > > I think the same. If you look into FreeBSD's history of > > > dealing with source code checkout methods, you'll find > > > this: port cvsup-without-gui -> base csup -> move to > > > SVN -> port subversion -> ? - here a tool to get updates > > > from source control would be nice. In the past, the > > > CVS-based tool did allow you to "make update" for the > > > /usr/src and /usr/ports tree. For the ports, we have > > > portsnap to obtain a snapshot (not _precisely_ current), > > > but for /usr/src, we currently don't have a tool in > > > the base system. Installing the full subversion port > > > isn't that hard, but a csup-lookalike in the base > > > would be nice, for the simple task to checkout sources, > > > even if it's just a bootstrap mechanism (cf. pkg). > > > > No it isn't that hard, but unless you're developing for the tree, svn's > > pretty heavyweight on space-constrained systems; lots of dependencies > > and lots of extra space used. > > This was my primary concern. It's not the problem of > installing it per se, but the user might be on a system > where every MB is "expensive", or he might follow the > concept of "I only install what I need" and therefore > consider the many dependencies "not needed". > > You very much nailed it here. My main concern is a 8-box cluster of firewalls for a platform that is PCI-DSS compliant. You may very well imagine how loath I am to install any additional software on these boxes. Hell we even had to remove 'screen' from them so, the less stuff, the better.
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