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Date:      Wed, 15 May 2019 16:02:44 +0000
From:      Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>
To:        Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, stable@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Security Officer <so@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD flood of 8 breakage announcements in 3 mins.
Message-ID:  <20190515160244.GU15455@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20190515155838.GV20962@fc.opsec.eu>
References:  <20190515153836.GU20962@fc.opsec.eu> <201905151551.x4FFp0UP067236@fire.js.berklix.net> <20190515155838.GV20962@fc.opsec.eu>

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On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 05:58:38PM +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> Hi!
>=20
> > > > Alternative is to for announcers to do Less work:=20
> > > > Send each announcement when ready.
>=20
> > > The problem is not the announcement, the problem is providing
> > > the freebsd-update.
>=20
> > > If announcements are send when ready, and the freebsd-update is
> > > not ready, therefore, the timeframes to attack systems with unpatched
> > > problems are much longer.
>=20
> > True as far as that goes for binary users, but often source patches
> > are available faster, which begs the question: when to announce ?
> > When there's diffs ? When diffs are commited to src/ (used to be the no=
rm *) ?
> > When there's some binary update ?=20
> > Whne a whole bunch of 8 arrive in 3 minutes ? Gasp !
>=20
> Now I understand why you bring this up.
>=20
> I guess the majority of users are using the binary update path.
>=20
> Maybe re@ can explain how the process is for these steps ?
>=20

This is an so@ thing (CCd).  re@ does not have any involvement in this
process.

Glen


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