Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 19:08:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sarcasm's Mailing List" <garbanzo@hooked.net> To: Murray Stokely <murray@cdrom.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cyberian RC5 Effort - 'Anti - Microsoft!' Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.970829190126.8435A-100000@fish.hooked.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96.970829182420.7337A-100000@pooh.cdrom.com>
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> - Cyberian has much faster clients Get your facts straight before you go shooting off your mouth. > - Cyberian has WORKING stats.. updated every 5 minutes. (bovine just > now got the stats working, but they are very limited and updated only > daily) Bovine has working stats that are updated more than once daily. > - The Bovine team is COMPLETELY unresponsive to offers of help. > People on the Bovine mailing list are constantly asking for new > features, and someone always offers to do it. But the Bovine team > wants to keep all the credit to themselves when the key is found, so > they don't let anyone help out, and they CONSTANTLY come up with > excuses and delays. Unresponsive to whom? > - There is no statistical advantage to using Bovine over Cyberian at > this time. Bovine checked the first 6% sequentially. So Cyberian > didn't have to check that space, therefore they've technically > eliminated 8% of the keyspace. This means that roughly one key in 10 > that Cyberian checks has already been checked by Bovine. Since the > Cyberian client is more than 10% faster on most systems, you're only > wasting your time with Bovine. Again get your facts straight. The assembly p5 core in the beta 4 Bovine clients is as fast if not faster than the most current one in Cyberian's clients. A faster p6 core is slated. I get 220kkeys/sec with Bovine's client on a p166. > - Cyberian has its act together in all aspects of the effort. Most of > the early Bovine enthusiasts have long since switched over. Cyberian > is more fun, more focused on the real goal of disproving the strength > of 56bit encryption, and more in tune to the needs of a REAL dynamic > distributed computing effort. Meaning what exactly? How is the Bovine effort not not focused? They may not post it to the mailing lists, but they are constantly releasing clients for more platforms, without having a huge ego. In fact the last I saw the on the Bovine list, the Cyberian effort was called "a bunch of nice guys". What were they smoking. > - Bovine uses Windows NT servers, Cyberian uses Unix ;) So you both make Win32 clients? Big whoop. > Our particular team is strongly unix based and definately anti-microsoft. > We're currently ranked 79th, but we're rising fast! We've got alot of the > computers here at Walnut Creek CDROM running, as well as two 6 processor > SPARCs at Depaul University! Check out So what? Why use SPARCs for this? Wouldn't a PPC be faster with its rotate instruction? > for our current statistics. We've got a mailing list, a web page, and several > cgi programs to cache the stats page and reformat them. Email us at > anti-ms@baic.com if you have any questions! > > Murray Stokely Geez get your facts straight before you spew garbage. You're both working for a common goal, must you attack each other? Yeah I know this _doesn't_ belong at all on the list. So sue me. - alex
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