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Date:      Sun, 28 May 2023 10:22:18 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>
Cc:        Alastair Hogge <agh@riseup.net>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>,  FreeBSD Current <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Help request: strange issue with xfce xfwm4 on AMD hardware, running head
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On Sun, May 28, 2023, 9:20 AM Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net> wrote:

> On 28/05/23 16:41, Warner Losh wrote:
> > Sill questions.  Did you update only some of your packages? You really
> > need to update them all at the same time to have them be compatible.
> > Some projects have a fast moving abi they don't keep compatible very
> well.
> >
>
> I'm running FreeBSD head here, using pkgbase. I upgraded a few base
> packages (I create them with poudriere).
>
> I also updated the ports tree and updated other ports using the
> resulting binaries (also created with poudriere)
>
> The pkgs that were updated when xfwm4 stopped working were listed in my
> first post [1].
>

So not all of the non pkg base packages? Have you tried updating them all?
Or you did update them all and the list of what updated was in the post? I
read it when first posted and again now and am unsure which it is...

It may well be something broke... but I'm just wanting to be double sure
it's against a consistent package set. If something broke, then I can't
help.

Also a good time to plug zfs root and snapshots to roll back to if the
upgrade fails. But that's like for future you...

I tested downgrading glib, but nothing changed. Other things updated
> there look completely unrelated (well except the kernel obviously).
>


Yea, I've rarely had good luck with that path.


> Now that you mention it, I may have forgot to force poudriere to rebuild
> the drm-kmod port. I'll try that, just in case!
>

That's unlikely the cause. Though it wouldn't hurt. Usually it simply won't
load. And this package us matched to a specific kernel so make sure you
rebuild against the headers of the kernel installed.

Warner

[1] https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2023-May/003734.html
>
> --
> Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>
>
>

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<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 28, 2023, 9:20 AM Guido Falsi &lt;<a href="mailto:mad@madpilot.net">mad@madpilot.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 28/05/23 16:41, Warner Losh wrote:<br>
&gt; Sill questions.  Did you update only some of your packages? You really <br>
&gt; need to update them all at the same time to have them be compatible. <br>
&gt; Some projects have a fast moving abi they don&#39;t keep compatible very well.<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
I&#39;m running FreeBSD head here, using pkgbase. I upgraded a few base <br>
packages (I create them with poudriere).<br>
<br>
I also updated the ports tree and updated other ports using the <br>
resulting binaries (also created with poudriere)<br>
<br>
The pkgs that were updated when xfwm4 stopped working were listed in my <br>
first post [1].<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So not all of the non pkg base packages? Have you tried updating them all? Or you did update them all and the list of what updated was in the post? I read it when first posted and again now and am unsure which it is...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It may well be something broke... but I&#39;m just wanting to be double sure it&#39;s against a consistent package set. If something broke, then I can&#39;t help.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Also a good time to plug zfs root and snapshots to roll back to if the upgrade fails. But that&#39;s like for future you...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I tested downgrading glib, but nothing changed. Other things updated <br>
there look completely unrelated (well except the kernel obviously).<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yea, I&#39;ve rarely had good luck with that path.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Now that you mention it, I may have forgot to force poudriere to rebuild <br>
the drm-kmod port. I&#39;ll try that, just in case!<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That&#39;s unlikely the cause. Though it wouldn&#39;t hurt. Usually it simply won&#39;t load. And this package us matched to a specific kernel so make sure you rebuild against the headers of the kernel installed.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Warner</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
[1] <a href="https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2023-May/003734.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/2023-May/003734.html</a><br>;
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Guido Falsi &lt;<a href="mailto:mad@madpilot.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mad@madpilot.net</a>&gt;<br>
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