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Date:      Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:55:54 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Anders Nordby <anders@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>, sam@errno.com, mux@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ipfw userland breaks again.
Message-ID:  <200212151855.gBFItsQ1081646@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <200212142351.gBENpBVH002931@apollo.backplane.com> <23f401c2a3ce$2a6e7e30$52557f42@errno.com> <200212150015.gBF0FlbS066547@apollo.backplane.com> <20021215.111441.05985858.imp@bsdimp.com> <200212151826.gBFIQMpo081407@apollo.backplane.com> <20021215185051.GA55072@totem.fix.no>

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:How about sending the patch to the Technical Review Board, trb@ instead.
:
:Thanks.
:
:Cheers,
:
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:Anders.

    Getting bored sitting on your buns?  It's already gone to core and,
    frankly, I think core is the proper forum now that Warner has declared
    it a security issue (when it obviously isn't.  How easy is it to do
    an ipfw add 2 allow all from any to any?  It's ludicrous to call it
    a security issue).

    I really don't mind people disagreeing, but I do mind it when people
    believe that the proper solution is for Matt Dillon to spend a man week
    fixing a major API that he didn't write instead of comitting an 8 line
    patch that deals with the issue well enough so sysads don't have to
    pull their hair out every time it happens. 

    As I said before, I have no problem with the patch being removed once
    the API is fixed, but I am NOT the guy who should be rewriting the API
    and, frankly, it is inappropriate for anyone to suggest that I should
    be if they themselves are not willing to sit down in front of a 
    keyboard and come up with a committable solution of their own.  So far
    all I've heard are utterly trivial complaints from people who aren't
    willing to code up a solution themselves.

						-Matt


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