Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:29:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian F. Feldman" <green@unixhelp.org> To: Eivind Eklund <eivind@freebsd.org> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: __FreeBSD_version hairsplitting [was Re: cvs commit: doc/en/handbook/ports chapter.sgml] Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9906221027040.59616-100000@janus.syracuse.net> In-Reply-To: <19990622112605.H81707@bitbox.follo.net>
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On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Eivind Eklund wrote:
> [I'm moving this to -chat]
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 1999 at 02:34:01PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Eivind Eklund wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 08:03:45PM -0400, Brian F. Feldman wrote:
> > > > But __FreeBSD_version is mainly for the ports system anyway!
> > >
> > > Disagree. __FreeBSD_version is mainly so any developer that maintain
> > > something outside the FreeBSD tree can be able to make it work with
> > > most versions of FreeBSD. In a way, it is a testimony to our
> > > ineptness at creating and maintaining good APIs.
> >
> > The ports system is the collection of programs for FreeBSD;
>
> No. The ports system is infrastructure to easily build, install, and
> uninstall a set[1] of programs for use under FreeBSD. This set is a
> small subset of the complete set of programs that can run under
> FreeBSD.
Okay, I worded something terribly :)
>
> > how does that not use __FreeBSD_version? Ports do that. And most of
> > the time, with any changes, it is not the API that changes but the
> > ABI.
>
> There are other mechanisms than __FreeBSD_version for handling that.
> __FreeBSD_version is for handling API differences; it is at source
> level.
Look at the latest pidentd port. How could that be done without __FreeBSD_\
version? I'm _NOT_ converting pidentd to *blech *autoconf.
>
> Eivind.
>
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