Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:06:14 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@freebsd.org> To: kc5vdj@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd@KIWI-Computer.com, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: ACPI CHANGES AFFECTING MOST -CURRENT USERS Message-ID: <20010906000614W.jkh@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <3B971081.9080804@yahoo.com> References: <200109060553.f865rLE65613@KIWI-Computer.com> <3B971081.9080804@yahoo.com>
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Are you guys on crack? Scheme is just a dialect of LISP, where "LISP" could also just as easily be any one of MacLisp, InterLisp, Franz Lisp, Common Lisp or one of many other possibilities. The very acronym lacks specific meaning without an additional qualifier. Scheme can also dynamically build and evaluate data as code just as well as any other LISP dialect. Somebody needs to go back and take a CS class or something. :-) - Jordan From: Jim Bryant <kc5vdj@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: ACPI CHANGES AFFECTING MOST -CURRENT USERS Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:58:25 -0500 > FreeBSD Fanatic wrote: > > >>>Show us a suitable LISP interpreter, then. > >>> > >>$ cd ~/lang/Scheme/tinyscm-1.27 > >>$ size scheme > >> text data bss dec hex filename > >> 61342 4476 3480 69298 10eb2 scheme > >> > > > > Is that statically-linked? I'm curious to know the size of the bootloader > > forth footprint. The loader is about 150k, so I'm sure you could probably > > fit a nice Scheme interpreter in under that size... ?? > > > > > >>Tinyscheme is a mostly complete R5RS Scheme (R5RS is the > >> > > > > You can also conditionally-compile the components to make a smaller > > footprint. I'm highly in favor of Scheme replacing 4th... It's a very > > easy language to learn (only 11 special forms) yet still powerful (you > > can't pass code as data in BASIC ;). If you replace the boot loader > > interpreter, pick Scheme over LISP. There are lots of implementations: > > siod, scm, mit-scheme, MzScheme, and tinyscheme are among the better ones. > > > > --Rick C. Petty, aka Snoopy rick@kiwi-computer.com > > > I still think that Scheme has far less proficient programmers than LISP. > > BTW: In LISP, *EVERYTHING* is data. LISP was executing data as code and writing self-replicating programs around 1951 or 1952. > > > jim > -- > ET has one helluva sense of humor! > He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! > -------------------------------------------- > POWER TO THE PEOPLE! > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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