Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:20:14 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net> To: ben@stuyts.nl Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Performance problems/hangs with today's build Message-ID: <199801120020.TAA00352@dyson.iquest.net> In-Reply-To: <199801112330.AAA11185@daneel.stuyts.nl> from Ben Stuyts at "Jan 12, 98 00:30:38 am"
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Ben Stuyts said: > > I'm aware of the risks of running current, but I'm only trying to help by > describing the problems I encountered. I didn't mean to put down all the good > work you people put into it. On the contrary, it is very much appreciated. > There should be some fixes going in tonight. I have been getting frustrated (probably because I take this so seriously) about the me too bug reports. Truly I have been working long long hours, over the entire holiday to fix the bugs that I had admittedly created. I am very tired, and intensely trying to fix the problem. Sorry if I came across as "cross", but -current is something to be very gentle with until I get the (my) problems fixed. > > I'm on the digest list of -current, so maybe that's part of the problem. > Sometimes the digest doesn't appear for days. Maybe something can be > configured so that it is sent out at least once a day. Or I should just > subscribe to the non-digest list. I just scan the digest headers for things to > watch out for. (Heads up, xxx broken, etc). > I find that any delay in information about -current can "hose" me also. So, unless you are not running -current actively, I suggest subscribing to the regular mailing list, and using procmail to split it off for review so you can get the info immediately when you are ready to try an up-to-date -current. (That is how I manage the 600+ messages/day that I have to wade through.) > > FYI, I have a few other machines that need to be up 24/7, and they run > -stable, and stable they are. Only my home toy runs -current, because I'm > interested in SMP and the direction you guys are taking for FreeBSD. > You are wise avoiding use of -current in production, but some people have to use it and that is one reason that I am frank about breakage when I know about it. It is best for me to be straightforward about it, rather than hide it, and have users even more angry :-). (I'd rather cause people to be frustrated with me, rather than them being angry at the entire project, because we might appear that we (or I) don't care about the users or the codebase.) -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@freebsd.org | it just makes you look stupid, jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig.
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