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Date:      Thu, 7 Nov 2024 14:44:04 -0800
From:      Rick Macklem <rick.macklem@gmail.com>
To:        Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: An interesting anomaly in NFS client...
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 2:09=E2=80=AFPM Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org> wr=
ote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 07:28:59AM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> > On 07/11/2024 02:43, George Neville-Neil wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > We've been digging into an interesting possible issue in the FreeBSD =
NFS
> > > client. Here is the scenario. I have a FreeBSD VM on my Mac, the Mac =
is
> > > the NFS server, the VM is the client. I then attempt to build an out =
of
> > > tree kernel module that I'm working on. The build looks like it's
> > > hanging for 1.5 seconds, and when we look at the packets (pcap file
> > > attached) we see a ton of GETATTRs over the first 1.5 seconds. I've p=
ut
> > > the pcap up here: oct_8_2024.pcapng <https://
> > > people.freebsd.org/~gnn/oct_8_2024.pcapng>
> > >
> > > I also note that an issue was raised on the forums that seems similar=
,
> > > way back between FreeBSD 10 and 11:
> > >
> > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/nfs-cache-misses-after-upgrading-t=
o-11-1-
> > > from-10-3.65491/
> > > <https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/nfs-cache-misses-after-
> > > upgrading-to-11-1-from-10-3.65491/>
> > >
> > > I'm seeing this on 15 currentish (last few months).
> >
> > Could it be just make checking for stale targets?
> > I.e., stat-ing various files to check their timestamps.
All I can tell you is that the GETATTRs all check directories (at
least all the ones
I looked at). They all appear to be different directories.

Btw, if you have not already done so, look at the packet trace in wireshark=
.
It actually knows how to decode NFS.

rick

>
> I suspect it is from this line in sys/conf/config.mk:
>
> __MPATH!=3Dfind ${SYSDIR:tA}/ -name \*_if.m
>
> This is running a find command over all of sys/, so it'll stat about
> 35000 files.  I believe it's from
> https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D12f05b84463baacfada5a79eaed061a=
4899d98aa
>



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